Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Tubey]

That would seem to indicate you don't tend to put stock in research created by experts, be interested to know what sources you think are reliable.

We know the answer. Basically anything he already agrees with that reaffirms his existing view.

Standard Brexiteer.

 

[Barnfred 55]

But then again, I suspect the capacity for empathy was probably a huge differentiator between those who voted leave and those who voted to stay

That's the general conception of the remain contingent who have adopted the moral high ground. That's not the situation in my experience as most leave voters I've met and spoken too have young family, whether that be their own children or their grandchildren, who are the most important things in their lives. They would never do anything intentional to ruin or harm their futures. They simply believed that their futures would be better served outside of the EU rather than inside. And for that they've been called many things from racist, to Little Englanders to thick.

 

[roydo]

They simply believed that their futures would be better served outside of the EU rather than inside. And for that they've been called many things from racist, to Little Englanders to thick.

Thats quite simply, because over 4 years, every single "reason" they give, when actually questioned in detail about the voracity of said "reason", they collapse in a heap.

 

[BlueDraka]

That would seem to indicate you don't tend to put stock in research created by experts, be interested to know what sources you think are reliable.

I listen to the experts. But they get some things right and they get things wrong. Especially when they try and predict what will happen in the future. That's all I was saying.

 

[Barnfred 55]

Form filling, customs checks, export declarations, etc. More red tape and bureaucracy for our exporters to deal with resulting in increased costs to businesses which will be passed on to the consumer.

The extra hassle and delays for exporters trying to use the GB landbridge to transport goods to and from mainland Europe.

Any form of Brexit is bad for Ireland. This is being imposed on us against the wishes of everyone. The trade deal which has been negotiated is merely the least bad option. However the peace agreement and the all-island economy have been protected, and we have Michel Barnier to thank for that.

There are some the possible positives though, as you have mentioned. Every cloud and all that.

The same inconveniences that will face every trader on both sides, that will very much become second nature after the initial upheaval and cost absorption. Still lots of upsides though compared to other EU nationals.

Who were you before you changed your name mate?

 

[ste d' indica]

I listen to the experts. But they get some things right and they get things wrong. Especially when they try and predict what will happen in the future. That's all I was saying.

No, what you said was: I do plenty of research, but people shouldn't listen to experts as they get nearly everything wrong.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

You could be right. Buts it still just an estimate. Like when people said we won't get medical treatment free in the EU when we leave the EU.

Like when Johnson said Erasmus wouldn't go about a week ago.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

 

[BlueDraka]

No, what you said was: I do plenty of research, but people shouldn't listen to experts as they get nearly wrong.

When they do future predictions they nearly always get wrong. And I said I probably do as much research as him. But I used the word probably because I could be wrong but who knows I could be right

 

[Barnfred 55]

Thats quite simply, because over 4 years, every single "reason" they give, when actually questioned in detail about the voracity of said "reason", they collapse in a heap.

I know. And I think that's shameful personally.

 

[BlueDraka]

Never heard that myself but I will take your word for it. But shock horror Johnson is a liar along with most politicans

Like when Johnson said Erasmus wouldn't go about a week ago.

 

[roydo]

I know. And I think that's shameful personally.

Its why I voted remain. Didnt believe a word we were told.

 

[BlueDraka]

We know the answer. Basically anything he already agrees with that reaffirms his existing view.

Standard Brexiteer.

Standard leaver response

 

[BlueDraka]

Its why I voted remain. Didnt believe a word we were told.

Did you believe everything that the remain side said. Massive lies on both sides of the debate

 

[ste d' indica]

When they do future predictions they nearly always get wrong. And I said I probably do as much research as him. But I used the word probably because I could be wrong but who knows I could be right

I'm gonna with 'probably not'.