Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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As with everything to do with brexit everything is an estimate. Same as the lies told on both sides before the brexit vote
Leave camp: vote leave we get £350 million a week for the NHS
Remain camp. Vote remain. Or the economy will collapse. The city in London will be decimated

The difference is one is an estimate based on evidence made by experts, whereas the other is an outright, provable complete lie.

As estimate isn't a lie.
 
As with everything to do with brexit everything is an estimate. Same as the lies told on both sides before the brexit vote
Leave camp: vote leave we get £350 million a week for the NHS
Remain camp. Vote remain. Or the economy will collapse. The city in London will be decimated

one is vastly more likely to happen than the other is, though
 
Just bizarre he's laughing at my post. We've just had a "deal" with really no provision for financial services, the bulk of our economy, and he's equating the prospect of that sector being severely damaged to an outright lie on the side of a bus by a serial liar.

It's bizarr-o-world.
Very bizarre
 
Do you live in Ireland mate? or are you one of the many that live and work in the UK?


I'm Irish, and live and work in Ireland. I wasn't personally arsed what the UK did tbh. My only concern was for my many friends and relatives in the UK, all of whom shook their heads in dismay at the decision to leave and have been bemused at the clowncar of the 4 years since. But then again, I suspect the capacity for empathy was probably a huge differentiator between those who voted leave and those who voted to stay. Well, that and how much importance you place in planning and detail. I'm glad you got a deal and I sincerely hope it works out
 
It's good for reading just before you go to bed. You usually get to page 4.
I've been accused of being a few people. Frang, firefighter, and the latest is from anonymous who said he knows I'm John. Whoever they are. And I don't know what a WUM is
In the vote I did vote remain but not with any big I love the EU mantra. But this vote had caused a huge division. I'm still not 100% about leaving but we have left and for me, we need to get on with it. And tbh I know quite a few people who voted remain but now think we just needed to get on with leaving.
Anyway I hope you nd yr family are in good health now. A merry Christmas and a happy new year.
PS I await the middle finger
If it hasn't come by tomorrow I'll make sure I oblige lol

I'm the opposite to you. I voted leave, but without any massive conviction having weighed up the pros and cons and finding it a very difficult decision. Whilst I still believe I made the right choice, I do regret voting leave in so far as the division it has created in our society. I hate it and have fallen out with family and friends.

I always believed getting a free trade deal would be one of the hardest elements of leaving and I'm delighted to have come away with such a good one. I honestly thought it would be nowhere as comprehensive as it is. The problem I have now is that I don't trust this current lot we have in charge to make a decent fist of it. They've already cocked up the proposed immigration bill, and I'm not impressed with what I've seen so far as regards the levelling up funding or the rhetoric coming out of Liz Truss.

They have great opportunities with agriculture and fishing following simply the awful CAP and European Fishing laws, and also in developing the UK as a world leader in green renewable energy. Let's hope they are competent enough to take advantage of it.
 
Find it yourself, doesn't bloody matter anymore, the horse has bolted.

Fair warning though - if you do research, doing so involves more than just looking at a side of a bus.
Exactly it doesn't really matter any more the horse has definitely bolted. And I probably do just as much research as you do don't believe experts they nearly always get it wrong!
 
I'm struggling to find a downside tbh.
Form filling, customs checks, export declarations, etc. More red tape and bureaucracy for our exporters to deal with resulting in increased costs to businesses which will be passed on to the consumer.

The extra hassle and delays for exporters trying to use the GB landbridge to transport goods to and from mainland Europe.

Any form of Brexit is bad for Ireland. This is being imposed on us against the wishes of everyone. The trade deal which has been negotiated is merely the least bad option. However the peace agreement and the all-island economy have been protected, and we have Michel Barnier to thank for that.

There are some the possible positives though, as you have mentioned. Every cloud and all that.
 
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