Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%
  • Total voters
    1,013
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BlueDraka said:
Your original story was about millions of EU residents who reside in the UK will receive EHIC cards. That may prove to be true.
I countered that with millions of uK pensioners who reside in the EU will receive EHIC so it balances itself out

You do know that we as taxpayers still pay for this treatment in the EU. We pay a lot more than the EU does. So it is not free.


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Anyone traveling without insurance to any EU is taking a massive risk even with the EHIC card.
I personally think countries like Spain will come to an agreement over health insurance. But as with everything with brexit it is only the potential outcome
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So you didn't read the original story, then?
 
tsubaki said:
Well thats absolutely how it will be sold, though we will no doubt find it isn't exactly free access (tarriff free more like, people will still have increased costs in customs etc), the curbs on unlimited immigration will affect us more than them, and the 30% of fish will in reality probably work out at around 50-60% (given we've already sell around 60% of our quota to EU boats).

Every brexit voter apart from the extreme loons will be delighted, but then again they'd have been delighted with any deal - hard, soft, May's - as long as we left.

As for Britain's negotiating power, a close inspection of this document will probably show that we've caved in on most areas (at least those set out as negotating positions).
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Will probably. Guessing again
 
davek said:
Apparently the EU have shackled the Tories into agreeing an arbitration panel over unfair competition (the panel to be determined). That will effectively police a level playing field, because if either side want to undercut (the UK in reality) they will face tarrifs that will be binding by international trading law. There will be no "divergence", "freedom".

Level playing field in all but name...and the handing over of fishing rights to the EU.

That's a defeat right there.
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No, it’s what was required. All FTA‘s have clauses to ensure ‘level playing fields’, and they are not in themselves of any issue. The issue was that the EU wanted the European Court to be the final arbiter and the U.K. wanted an Independent group. If they have now agreed to this then that’s one issue out of the way.....
 
BlueDraka said:
Yes . Did you read mine. Didn't look like
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Not only did I read it, I spell-checked it.

Why do you think an article which pointed out that UK EHIC cards won't be accepted in the EU after we leave was in fact about EU citizens getting UK issued EHIC cards here though? I mean, it did mention that fact, but it was very much not what the article was about.
 
tsubaki said:
Would love to see who actually said that - I mean, having free access to the trading bloc and curbs on immigration could have been easily achieved with a much softer Brexit than this.
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Cameron went to the EU and tried to get concession
tsubaki said:
Not only did I read it, I spell-checked it.

Why do you think an article which pointed out that UK EHIC cards won't be accepted in the EU after we leave was in fact about EU citizens getting UK issued EHIC cards here though? I mean, it did mention that fact, but it was very much not what the article was about.
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Like I said millions of our people who reside in the EU will be getting EHIC cards not just as you pointed out millions of EU citizens who reside in the UK will get EHIC cards. Balances itself out
 
peteblue said:
No, it’s what was required. All FTA‘s have clauses to ensure ‘level playing fields’, and they are not in themselves of any issue. The issue was that the EU wanted the European Court to be the final arbiter and the U.K. wanted an Independent group. If they have now agreed to this then that’s one issue out of the way.....
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The UK wanted no such thing as an arbitration panel...they know how that ends. The EU knew the UK would never, could never, agree to the EU policing a trade deal. The EU just got them to accept their second worst nightmare.

THAT IS ALL.

  • Level playing field via arbitration panel
  • No deal from the EU over financial services sector
  • Concessions from the UK over fishing rights for EU fleets

That's the main architecture of this deal.
 
davek said:
The UK wanted no such thing as an arbitration panel...they know how that ends. The EU knew the UK would never, could never, agree to the EU policing a trade deal. The EU just got them to accept their second worst nightmare.

THAT IS ALL.

  • Level playing field via arbitration panel
  • No deal from the EU over financial services sector
  • Concessions from the UK over fishing rights for EU fleets

That's the main architecture of this deal.
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That's one way of reading it. as you must have sat in on the trade talks is there any other information you can give us rather than all of us guessing what is happening?
 
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