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    Votes: 688 67.9%
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    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
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Biggest red herring the British people have ever been sold, the fish no one gives a hoot about the fish apart from some romantic notions... Even Farage is having a melt down, irrelevance, but a fair barometer on Brexit Pollocks...

Farage isn't a barometer on anything. His sole purpose is anarchy and will pick the side opposite to the masses
 
and we comprimised for access to the free trading bloc.

so let me get this right... we have free access to the trading bloc... curbs on unlimited immigration all for 30% of fish?

i think nearly every brexit voter will be delighted apart from the extreme loons.

I thought Britain had no negotiating power?

Well thats absolutely how it will be sold, though we will no doubt find it isn't exactly free access (tarriff free more like, people will still have increased costs in customs etc), the curbs on unlimited immigration will affect us more than them, and the 30% of fish will in reality probably work out at around 50-60% (given we've already sell around 60% of our quota to EU boats).

Every brexit voter apart from the extreme loons will be delighted, but then again they'd have been delighted with any deal - hard, soft, May's - as long as we left.

As for Britain's negotiating power, a close inspection of this document will probably show that we've caved in on most areas (at least those set out as negotating positions).
 
Apparently the EU have shackled the Tories into agreeing an arbitration panel over unfair competition (the panel to be determined). That will effectively police a level playing field, because if either side want to undercut (the UK in reality) they will face tarrifs that will be binding by international trading law. There will be no "divergence", "freedom".

Level playing field in all but name...and the handing over of fishing rights to the EU.

That's a defeat right there.
 
As long as the bones of free trade and a secure supply line(s) are maintained, utterly arsed about some fish.
It's going to be odd listening to people claiming fish was of monumental importance now suggesting it's fine to compromise over and conversely, those who claimed it wasn't important deciding 'we've caved' because we've compromised on it..
 
Apparently the EU have shackled the Tories into agreeing an arbitration panel over unfair competition (the panel to be determined). That will effectively police a level playing field, because if either side want to undercut (the UK in reality) they will face tarrifs that will be binding by international trading law. There will be no "divergence", "freedom".

Level playing field in all but name...and the handing over of fishing rights to the EU.

That's a defeat right there.

Jesus you are tedious.. you start with 'apparently' then claim it as fact. So Trump, Farage and Dracula could be on that panel. We have handed over 30% not 100%.

Let me get this straight... The vast majority of brexit people voted for:

Free access to the trading bloc
curbs on immigration

we were told that couldn't happen..... well well
 
Slipping into condescension? lol not entirely unsurprising if I'm honest

The implication you made was that the people complaining about the country slipping into the sea could deduce it was due to immigrants... a thing the OTHER SIDE had a problem with
Surprised you thought it was a slip, I jumped in head first.

Are you going to explain the sub text of all my posts back to me?
 
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Jesus you are tedious.. you start with 'apparently' then claim it as fact. So Trump, Farage and Dracula could be on that panel. We have handed over 30% not 100%.

Let me get this straight... The vast majority of brexit people voted for:

Free access to the trading bloc
curbs on immigration

we were told that couldn't happen..... well well
No, they will be serious people. Such a panel will enforce a level playing field. You know which side that favours.
 
Jesus you are tedious.. you start with 'apparently' then claim it as fact. So Trump, Farage and Dracula could be on that panel. We have handed over 30% not 100%.

Let me get this straight... The vast majority of brexit people voted for:

Free access to the trading bloc
curbs on immigration

we were told that couldn't happen..... well well

Would love to see who actually said that - I mean, having free access to the trading bloc and curbs on immigration could have been easily achieved with a much softer Brexit than this.
 
then why say, and I quote:



When you know that it will, actually, affect you and probably a lot of other people if you know how it works?

I mean this isn't one of the unknowns of Brexit, its literally something that has saved countless UK citizens from huge medical bills for the past fifty years and which noone in their right mind ever called for us to get rid of.
Your original story was about millions of EU residents who reside in the UK will receive EHIC cards. That may prove to be true.
I countered that with millions of uK pensioners who reside in the EU will receive EHIC so it balances itself out

You do know that we as taxpayers still pay for this treatment in the EU. We pay a lot more than the EU does. So it is not free.



Anyone traveling without insurance to any EU is taking a massive risk even with the EHIC card.
I personally think countries like Spain will come to an agreement over health insurance. But as with everything with brexit it is only the potential outcome
 
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