Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%
  • Total voters
    1,013
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Pienaar's gloves said:
Does that not account for something like 0.00001% of tax credits?
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Don't know but it's inconceivable that you rightly come over here and work if you then decide to go home any I work benefits should automatically stop it just logic?
Any percentage is farcical IMO a complete joke just like the UK pensionairs who have two homes living abroad in the winter and still claiming fuel allowance off the government in this country common sense is missing with our governments IMO!
 
Joey66 said:
Don't know but it's inconceivable that you rightly come over here and work if you then decide to go home any I work benefits should automatically stop it just logic?
Any percentage is farcical IMO a complete joke just like the UK pensionairs who have two homes living abroad in the winter and still claiming fuel allowance off the government in this country common sense is missing with our governments IMO!
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If you've paid in to the system all of your life, claim it. We don't give enough to pensioners, I find it inconceivable to suggest that they shouldn't claim what they're entitled to.
 
Joey66 said:
No one because no government has produced actual figures probably because of embarrassment of EU citizens who have worked here and gone home still get child tax credits sent to them!
The deal DC tried to get was to put a 4 year limit on benefits for EU citizens who claim benefit over hear the actual figures of what it was costing us including housing benefit and tax credits and child credits has never surfaced - they just point out that migration fetches wealth to our country without these figures!
I suspect if published the vote OUT would have been bigger!
The fact DC wanted a four year emergency break says it all its in the Tory manefesto!
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So there's no figures that dispute the fact that EU immigrants make a NET contribution to our economy then? I see...

Since Cameron did the deal with the EU, migrants get nothing for 3 months, JSA for 3 months after that - but no housing benefit, and if after that 3 months they can't prove they have realistic chance of imminent work i.e. a job offer, they get nothing again.
 
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Foot Long Hot Dog said:
So there's no figures that dispute the fact that EU immigrants make a NET contribution to our economy then? I see...

Since Cameron did the deal with the EU, migrants get nothing for 3 months, JSA for 3 months after that - but no housing benefit, and if after that 3 months they can't prove they have realistic chance of imminent work i.e. a job offer, they get nothing again.
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I admire your dedication but at this point don't you feel like it's pointless?
 
Foot Long Hot Dog said:
So there's no figures that dispute the fact that EU immigrants make a NET contribution to our economy then? I see...

Since Cameron did the deal with the EU, migrants get nothing for 3 months, JSA for 3 months after that - but no housing benefit, and if after that 3 months they can't prove they have realistic chance of imminent work i.e. a job offer, they get nothing again.
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He did but the vote was still to leave just live with it!
I suspect a similar deal may be struck for us to stay in the single market, but we will stay outside the polictical Union who knows what Brexit will be it may take years even after we sign article 5O as we have had a 40 year membership to the most berocratic organisation in the world!
 
Joey66 said:
He did but the vote was still to leave just live with it!
I suspect a similar deal may be struck for us to stay in the single market, but we will stay outside the polictical Union who knows what Brexit will be it may take years even after we sign article 5O as we have had a 40 year membership to the most berocratic organisation in the world!
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We've got 2 years from the day we invoke article 50 to conclude a deal, if we don't we'll revert to WTO tariffs.
 
Foot Long Hot Dog said:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...-britain-will-give-up-on-brexit-if-they-make/

The EU will buckle to the mighty Blighty when we land in Brussels eh lads?

Or they might not give a toss and dig their heels in with the bigger picture of the preservation of the integrity of the fundamental basics of the EU being seen as more important than rolling over to our island nation, and tell us to get stretched.
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May may make a 'Brexit means Brexit' u-turn quicker than you can say Hinkley Point.

The City of London have already told May that ,'passporting' of financial services is the only game in town and accept anything to get that. Financial service is the UK's Achilles Heel.

But the UK could be in a worse position if the EU carry through their crackdown on tax havens. Out they would have no say, or influence in the discussions.

UK overseas territories could be affected by EU crackdown
 
joey_macmo said:
I admire your dedication but at this point don't you feel like it's pointless?
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Leaving 'facts' out there that are nothing more than Leave propaganda soundbites and not 'facts' at all, should be challenged.

The view of the person posting them is set, so all I'm doing is correcting the untruths.
 
hullefc said:
May may make a 'Brexit means Brexit' u-turn quicker than you can say Hinkley Point.

The City of London have already told May that ,'passporting' of financial services is the only game in town and accept anything to get that. Financial service is the UK's Achilles Heel.

But the UK could be in a worse position if the EU carry through their crackdown on tax havens. Out they would have no say, or influence in the discussions.

UK overseas territories could be affected by EU crackdown
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Hinckly point the work had started Georgie boy had done the Dirty deal - Brexit has not started hence she will not invoke article 50 - I suspect the elections in France and Germany will be eyed upon as its not worth getting allies to be then voted out is it?
Its forecast even after article 50 it will take years to get a clean break from the EU!
 
Joey66 said:
Hinckly point the work had started Georgie boy had done the Dirty deal - Brexit has not started hence she will not invoke article 50 - I suspect the elections in France and Germany will be eyed upon as its not worth getting allies to be then voted out is it?
Its forecast even after article 50 it will take years to get a clean break from the EU!
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May 'stopped' Hinkley Point due to 'concerns' about the Chinese. She went to the G20 and got a ticking off from the Chinese who threatened to halt their £1 billion investment in Manchester. May backed down as she will with 'Brexit means Brexit'. The civil war in the Tory party over Europe will emerge sooner rather than later and may force May's hand to invoke Article 50 or call an election. The government are in disarray and are showing all the signs of weakness, they are like rabbits in the headlights.
 
Joey66 said:
The truth his your views lost in the referendum you are a remainer still running the campaign!
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The truth is people were lied to and many made their decision based on 'promises' that were never going to happen.

What matters post this debacle is that we ensure we retain access to the single market, that's all I'm bothered about.

The rest of it won't impact on my life in any tangible and meaningful way and I therefore largely couldn't give a toss.
 
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