orchard
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Gud cumbak m8
A scruff of the first order.....
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peteblue
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A scruff of the first order.....
He is your standard left wing Labourite....
”George Monbiot grew up in Henley-on-Thames in South Oxfordshire, England, in a house next to Peppard Common.[5] Politics was at the heart of family life – his father, Raymond Geoffrey Monbiot, CBE,[6] is a businessman who headed the Conservative Party's trade and industry forum,[4] while his mother, Rosalie – the elder daughter of Conservative MP Roger Gresham Cooke[7] – was a Conservative councillor who led South Oxfordshire District Council for a decade.[8] His uncle, Canon Hereward Cooke, was the Liberal Democrat deputy leader of Norwich City Council between 2002 and 2006.[9]
Monbiot was educated at a preparatory boarding school between 1971 and 1976. He did not enjoy his time there, later believing that boarding school destroys one's imagination. He was then educated at Stowe School, a public school in Stowe, Buckinghamshire.[10][11] He won an open scholarship to Brasenose College, Oxford.[12] He stated that his "political awakening" was prompted by reading Bettina Ehrlich's book, Paolo and Panetto, while at his prep school,[13][14] and that he regretted attending Oxford, stating that his time there was unhappy and he did not fit in with Brasenose's culture.[15]”
You really couldn’t make this crap up......
peteblue
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Bessie Braddock, compare and contrast....
”Elizabeth Margaret Braddock (née Bamber; 24 September 1899 – 13 November 1970) was a British Labour Party politician who served as Member of Parliament (MP) for the Liverpool Exchange division from 1945 to 1970. She was a member of Liverpool County Borough Council from 1930 to 1961. Although she never held office in government, she won a national reputation for her forthright campaigns in connection with housing, public health and other social issues.
Braddock inherited much of her campaigning spirit from her mother, Mary Bamber, an early socialist and trade union activist. After some years in the Independent Labour Party (ILP), Braddock joined the Communist Party of Great Britain (CPGB) on its foundation in 1920, but quickly became disillusioned with the party's dictatorial tendencies. She left the CPGB in 1924 and later joined the Labour Party. Before the Second World War, alongside her husband Jack Braddock she established a reputation as a crusading left-wing councillor, frequently at odds with her party while pursuing an agenda of social reform. During the war she worked in Liverpool's ambulance service, before winning the Exchange division for Labour in the 1945 general election.”
How times change.....
”Elizabeth Margaret Braddock (née Bamber; 24 September 1899 – 13 November 1970) was a British Labour Party politician who served as Member of Parliament (MP) for the Liverpool Exchange division from 1945 to 1970. She was a member of Liverpool County Borough Council from 1930 to 1961. Although she never held office in government, she won a national reputation for her forthright campaigns in connection with housing, public health and other social issues.
Braddock inherited much of her campaigning spirit from her mother, Mary Bamber, an early socialist and trade union activist. After some years in the Independent Labour Party (ILP), Braddock joined the Communist Party of Great Britain (CPGB) on its foundation in 1920, but quickly became disillusioned with the party's dictatorial tendencies. She left the CPGB in 1924 and later joined the Labour Party. Before the Second World War, alongside her husband Jack Braddock she established a reputation as a crusading left-wing councillor, frequently at odds with her party while pursuing an agenda of social reform. During the war she worked in Liverpool's ambulance service, before winning the Exchange division for Labour in the 1945 general election.”
How times change.....
Blues Harp
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What is your point? You voted for the right wing zealots.
How times change.....you obviously went the other way.
Bessie would turn in her grave if she knew what a fellow "scouser" had now become.
How dare you invoke her name and reputation because you dont agree with a guy whom she would find a lot of common ground with.
Unbelievable!
peteblue
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She would turn in her grave to see what Labour has become...a Tory light privileged club for southern malcontents. You doff your cap to the same elite that you despise as long as they wear a red rosette.......Unbelievable .....
sbbefc
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I know you're a WUM with your constant stream of rubbish, but I'll bite. She served in Attlee's government. Clement Attlee:
The son of a London solicitor, Attlee was born into a middle-class family. After attending the public school Haileybury College and the University of Oxford, he practised as a barrister.
orchard
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Christ, it's like the best trabs, or fit journalist thread in here.
Fair play to Pete on spaffing a bucket load of drunken ad hominem all over the thread like.
It's quite simple, there's no strategic reserve of food ready for Brexit, and the government stance is it's someone else's problem. You either agree, or don't.
Additionally, it appears the DoE have just told schools to stock up on non-perishable foods. I'm sure they'll be right on it.
Fair play to Pete on spaffing a bucket load of drunken ad hominem all over the thread like.
It's quite simple, there's no strategic reserve of food ready for Brexit, and the government stance is it's someone else's problem. You either agree, or don't.
Additionally, it appears the DoE have just told schools to stock up on non-perishable foods. I'm sure they'll be right on it.
Blues Harp
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How the feck do you know who I support? I "doff my cap" to no one. You show a remarkable ignorance about politics for all your supposed "experience" in business and commerce.
Living in the past is a better description of your situation.
I don't doubt your intelligence as you have questioned mine with your sly patronising digs at me.
You never attempted to respond to the article I posted but went straight on the attack against the author.
Show me that I shouldn't be worried about the points he made.
Simples.
Bishop Thumpety-Thump
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Good to see you've gone heavy on the substance of the article rather than attacking the author and deflection about the direction of labour.
Monbiot is kind of the Owen Jones of my generation though to be fair, albeit with a focus on environmental rather than social matters.
I suspect Pete might not have been fully in charge of his faculties. Tough times on publicans with an excess of beer that isn't going to drink itself.
I started out writing (before I got distracted) that while it was an interesting read, I find him alarmist and preachy.
I also think when he diversifies away from the environment he often doesn't seem to be as knowledgeable or well researched.
orchard
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It's not fair, it's irrelevant.
And yeah, he's a bit of a div, especially as he probably voted for Brexit.
Sadly that can often be the case with environmentalists.
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