Current Affairs EU In or Out
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tsubaki
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It’s interesting that you suggest blame should be apportioned to Attlee for both of those long-standing issues, certainly.
We all know...or should, his 3 more famous quotes
But this one seems to get missed...We never lost the World Cup under a Labour Govt.
Did a lot for the area did Aitch
He did order the partition to be rushed through to get Britain out of India.
dead_soft
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So there hasn't been a 'proper' Labour leader in just shy of 50 years. Or over 1/3 of it's history. What is it that defines a 'proper' Labour leader and what have the party been getting so wrong?
What a legacy for the history of the country. For school kids to be told they helped when it mattered most. Unlike over here where we demonised the most vulnerable and desperate. Not our finest hour
How Angela Merkel’s great migrant gamble paid off
Five years ago, as more and more refugees crossed into Europe, Germany’s chancellor proclaimed, ‘We’ll manage this.’ Critics said it was her great mistake – but she has been proved rightwww.theguardian.com
And they've done remarkably well during COVID as well. Merkel will be looked back on incredibly fondly, in years to come, whereas our descent into xenophobia will be remembered for the stain it is.
peteblue
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Indeed. The political party who won the last General Election as a result of a vote by the U.K. electorate, approved of a leader who became PM, the PM appointed this guy. Vote out of power the current government and the new incoming PM can do as he wishes, retain or get rid. It’s all down to who we vote for.....
dead_soft
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And this was different to voting for the EU Parliament who would then choose the members of the European Commission etc, how?
I asked how I personally can get rid of him. My constituency in London has been a Labour/Liberal constituency since 1935. So what does my vote get me in terms of dictating anything now we've taken back all of this power?
The main difference is, quite simply, that they are foreigners. People can try twisting it any way they like, but that’s what it always comes down to
dead_soft
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It's quite hard to disagree with this. I've always had sympathy for people who want hyper-local governance (it's not for me but there can be a political and non-bigoted argument behind it) but not when someone wants to govern 4 distinct nations with one parliament yet think the EU doesn't make sense
It was always my understanding that one of the main criticisms of the Tories from a wonkish point of view is that they exercise an extremely centralised form of government, with Whitehall controlling and dictating far more than is sensible. Indeed, that came to the fore during COVID, with the German-style distributed system doing much better than the British doing everything at PHE approach.
peteblue
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Just look at the list. Foot and Kinnock, idiots, John Smith would have been a great PM but tragically died, Blair was a Tory, Brown was a deadly fool, Miliband was a joke, Corbyn (see Foot) and now they have an empty vessel who is more Tory than Boris....Pick the right leader and develop policies that don’t bankrupt the nation nor return it to the union dominated years.....
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