Current Affairs EU In or Out

[JimmyJeffers]

No deal with the EU. The way the government are planning, I’d say this was confirmed yesterday

Christ.

 

[spectateur]

No deal with the EU. The way the government are planning, I’d say this was confirmed yesterday

This is just what the hard right of the tories always wanted.
Makes it easier to add to their fortunes.

 

[peteblue]

No deal with the EU. The way the government are planning, I’d say this was confirmed yesterday

What makes you believe this, bearing in mind in aiming for success you have to plan for failure......

 

[tsubaki]

What makes you believe this, bearing in mind in aiming for success you have to plan for failure......

you mean failures planning for success, surely

 

[nsno-chris]

What makes you believe this, bearing in mind in aiming for success you have to plan for failure......

Well, as I’m still under an NDA I can’t go into specific details. But a decision that will take effect pretty soon will show the shift away from EU to U.K. To revert this, once implemented, would cause a lot of unhappiness and confusion with trade

 

[nsno-chris]

What makes you believe this, bearing in mind in aiming for success you have to plan for failure......

and no Pete, that’s contingency planning which is what I’ve been doing for the last 3 years.

 

[peteblue]

Well, as I’m still under an NDA I can’t go into specific details. But a decision that will take effect pretty soon will show the shift away from EU to U.K. To revert this, once implemented, would cause a lot of unhappiness and confusion with trade

I understand...

 

[orly]

No deal with the EU. The way the government are planning, I’d say this was confirmed yesterday

*have been planning for a very long time. It has been the underlying planning assumption because it has the highest impact.

 

[nsno-chris]

*have been planning for a very long time. It has been the underlying planning assumption because it has the highest impact.

indeed, the initial planning was for a no deal Brexit unbelievably poor. Right up to the last day, before the extension, the outstanding items would have seen the borders crash and burn.

Even over the last couple of months, since they restarted the planning assumptions, there’ll be a ridiculous impact on the ports that they simply aren’t prepared for. Whilst the actual port operator could, the key agencies involved won’t have the man power on the frontline.

The impact of such things like ferries now being subject to border controls is crazy, there is no electronic manifest of goods so nobody has an idea of what we’re expecting. I’ve been working on this, with a couple of my team, and the predictions range drastically.

All this has been fed back to the cabinet office, recorded on the risk registers and we’re constantly waiting on decision and direction on how to proceed.

The planning at government level has been nothing short of abysmal

 

[peteblue]

*have been planning for a very long time. It has been the underlying planning assumption because it has the highest impact.

Any business that hasn’t done so has no one to blame but themselves. However I have confidence in U.K. businesses to have their plans in place....

 

[orly]

Any business that hasn’t done so has no one to blame but themselves. However I have confidence in U.K. businesses to have their plans in place....

This simply isn't true if they import / export GB to NI or vice versa.

 

[nsno-chris]

Any business that hasn’t done so has no one to blame but themselves. However I have confidence in U.K. businesses to have their plans in place....

Impossible, because the government still haven’t decided on the NI protocol. Have no idea how to deal with goods transiting through ROI to NI then onto U.K.

 

[peteblue]

indeed, the initial planning was for a no deal Brexit unbelievably poor. Right up to the last day, before the extension, the outstanding items would have seen the borders crash and burn.

Even over the last couple of months, since they restarted the planning assumptions, there’ll be a ridiculous impact on the ports that they simply aren’t prepared for. Whilst the actual port operator could, the key agencies involved won’t have the man power on the frontline.

The impact of such things like ferries now being subject to border controls is crazy, there is no electronic manifest of goods so nobody has an idea of what we’re expecting. I’ve been working on this, with a couple of my team, and the predictions range drastically.

All this has been fed back to the cabinet office, recorded on the risk registers and we’re constantly waiting on decision and direction on how to proceed.

The planning at government level has been nothing short of abysmal

It always has been, and absolutely no disrespect intended to the work you are doing. An old colleague of mine headed up what what was then called the OGC and introduced lots of best practice in managing programmes that came out of Industry. But you can put all the best practice in the world into government departments and they still seem to mess it up. I think it’s a cultural issue, if Industry gets it wrong people lose their jobs and careers, if government departments get it wrong no one loses their job and the merry-go-round just continues in my experience.....

 

[orly]

It always has been, and absolutely no disrespect intended to the work you are doing. An old colleague of mine headed up what what was then called the OGC and introduced lots of best practice in managing programmes that came out of Industry. But you can put all the best practice in the world into government departments and they still seem to mess it up. I think it’s a cultural issue, if Industry gets it wrong people lose their jobs and careers, if government departments get it wrong no one loses their job and the merry-go-round just continues in my experience.....

*looks for first major public commitment to "unfettered access"

*laughs at Pete being wrong again

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

No deal with the EU. The way the government are planning, I’d say this was confirmed yesterday

Farage been squawking in the Express trying to rally the troops, which suggests he sees a deal... Otherwise he would still be hiding away in his bunker from coloured people!