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Hear hear. It's probably balls.

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He looks the sort.
 
I wouldn't trust any figures given by this government.

Think what Russian Pete meant to say was-

"Эти 66 миллиардов составляют 20% всей торговли между ЕС и Великобританией и представляют собой разницу между экспортом Великобритании и экспортом ЕС ....... так что не является незначительной суммой ......"

The giveaway is the excessive use of full stops...
 
So, the EU has agreed to mutualise debt and effectively ditch article 125 without even bothering to amend their own treaties. Now watch the bun fight as France attempts to grab a decent proportion of the ‘grants’....

I would say the bigger problem with the agreement is the reduction in funding for science and innovation. That doesn't seem sensible at all.
 
I would say the bigger problem with the agreement is the reduction in funding for science and innovation. That doesn't seem sensible at all.

They seem to have trimmed one or two programmes/initiatives to help pay for this. It’s a fudge really. They have actually increased yearly rebates to buy off the likes of Holland as well.....
 
They seem to have trimmed one or two programmes/initiatives to help pay for this. It’s a fudge really. They have actually increased yearly rebates to buy off the likes of Holland as well.....

I think it was Merkel that said historically the UK would have led that group, but in the absence of the UK, Rutter has stepped forward instead. The need for a speedy resolution made horse trading an inevitability unfortunately, which meant there were various bits of nose holding going on, not least giving the Poles and Hungarians free rein to carry on as they are.
 
I think it was Merkel that said historically the UK would have led that group, but in the absence of the UK, Rutter has stepped forward instead. The need for a speedy resolution made horse trading an inevitability unfortunately, which meant there were various bits of nose holding going on, not least giving the Poles and Hungarians free rein to carry on as they are.

Hungary basically said they would veto the whole thing if the Democracy and Rule of Law wording was inserted, so as you say, they can both carry on doing as they please. Unless of course the European Parliament actually acts like a Parliament and throws it all out....
 

A good read. Although I was a little surprised at this paragraph...

”To put this in context, total research and development spending in the UK during the period of the FP7 programme (2006-13, the last for which complete figures are available) was €226 billion. Of this, 45% (€102 billion) came from industry, the Research Councils contributed 11%, charities 5% and just 3% (€6.9 billion) came from the EU.”
 
A good read. Although I was a little surprised at this paragraph...

”To put this in context, total research and development spending in the UK during the period of the FP7 programme (2006-13, the last for which complete figures are available) was €226 billion. Of this, 45% (€102 billion) came from industry, the Research Councils contributed 11%, charities 5% and just 3% (€6.9 billion) came from the EU.”

The funding, while not insignificant, is not the main thing though, it's the access to talent, and the collaborative opportunities presented by Horizon. While Patel has said about having an easy visa for researchers, we'll see how big a hurdle having any visa requirements at all versus free movement represents, plus how being a satellite to Horizon rather than a fully fledged member.
 
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