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Joey66 said:
yes when i was at school the experts were predicting an ice age in the future also gain an o level in Environmental studies - great new subject on the syllabus in 1971 opted for that instead of geography.
IMO its a con to make money - Fracking safe my backside - its just nature seasonal changes in my era of growing up we had nearly every house burning coal- industry on a big scale in the midlands it was known as the black country for its industry the potteries pumped smoke out in Stoke
oh the nickname of London was for a Northerner Im going down to the smoke !
all this has cleaned up yet global warming is now running riot oh by the way the ozone layer is now nearly repaired!
It's all about cashing in on scientist phenoms imo!
yet the big super powers put two fingers to it all , and they are the worlds biggest pollutants!
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Go and do some research about the correlation in the increase in global Co2 emissions and the global temperature increase mate.

You stating that we burnt more coal in the UK in years gone by ergo climate change is therefore bunkum is complete cobblers. As global Co2 production has increased by about 6 Billion metric tonnes since the 50's ffs.
 
Joey66 said:
yes when i was at school the experts were predicting an ice age in the future also gain an o level in Environmental studies - great new subject on the syllabus in 1971 opted for that instead of geography.
IMO its a con to make money - Fracking safe my backside - its just nature seasonal changes in my era of growing up we had nearly every house burning coal- industry on a big scale in the midlands it was known as the black country for its industry the potteries pumped smoke out in Stoke
oh the nickname of London was for a Northerner Im going down to the smoke !
all this has cleaned up yet global warming is now running riot oh by the way the ozone layer is now nearly repaired!
It's all about cashing in on scientist phenoms imo!
yet the big super powers put two fingers to it all , and they are the worlds biggest pollutants!
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Air pollution in London (as an example) is believed to be akin to smoking for several years in terms of its impact on our lung health. Even if you don't agree with climate change, generating energy in a cleaner and more sustainable way is sensible on so many levels.

My point in bringing this up however is that the vast majority of scientists and institutions working in this field accept that climate change is real, yet lay people feel somehow emboldened to disagree with those who have made it their lives work. I find that rather baffling to be honest.
 
Bruce Wayne said:
Air pollution in London (as an example) is believed to be akin to smoking for several years in terms of its impact on our lung health. Even if you don't agree with climate change, generating energy in a cleaner and more sustainable way is sensible on so many levels.

My point in bringing this up however is that the vast majority of scientists and institutions working in this field accept that climate change is real, yet lay people feel somehow emboldened to disagree with those who have made it their lives work. I find that rather baffling to be honest.
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When you've got hundreds of thousands of barmpots believing that 9/11 was a staged US military action, then people dismissing climate change shouldn't come as a great surprise mate.

I've done plenty of research on this subject, and have encountered many who claim it's some form on global conspiracy. They invariably quote one of the several climate change denier websites, who almost without exception can be traced back to oil company funding. Conspiracy? You bet.
 
Could be wrong but there hasn't been global warming for the past 10 or so years? Global temperature has cooled slightly. It's why they changed the name to climate change.
 
Wasn't the last Environment minister a denier? With the Government's actions,it's hardly surprising some don't take it seriously.

Foot Long Hot Dog said:
When you've got hundreds of thousands of barmpots believing that 9/11 was a staged US military action, then people dismissing climate change shouldn't come as a great surprise mate.

I've done plenty of research on this subject, and have encountered many who claim it's some form on global conspiracy. They invariably quote one of the several climate change denier websites, who almost without exception can be traced back to oil company funding. Conspiracy? You bet.
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Foot Long Hot Dog said:
When you've got hundreds of thousands of barmpots believing that 9/11 was a staged US military action, then people dismissing climate change shouldn't come as a great surprise mate.

I've done plenty of research on this subject, and have encountered many who claim it's some form on global conspiracy. They invariably quote one of the several climate change denier websites, who almost without exception can be traced back to oil company funding. Conspiracy? You bet.
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When it's the same person who's claiming sterling is doing fine I wouldn't waste your breath mate.
 
Joey66 said:
yes when i was at school the experts were predicting an ice age in the future also gain an o level in Environmental studies - great new subject on the syllabus in 1971 opted for that instead of geography.
IMO its a con to make money - Fracking safe my backside - its just nature seasonal changes in my era of growing up we had nearly every house burning coal- industry on a big scale in the midlands it was known as the black country for its industry the potteries pumped smoke out in Stoke
oh the nickname of London was for a Northerner Im going down to the smoke !
all this has cleaned up yet global warming is now running riot oh by the way the ozone layer is now nearly repaired!
It's all about cashing in on scientist phenoms imo!
yet the big super powers put two fingers to it all , and they are the worlds biggest pollutants!
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If climate change/global warming is just a made up thing to keep scientists in a job, as you put it, how can you possibly explain the rise of surface, air and sea temperature over the last 50 years? Because that did actually happen.

Unless those scheming scientists are faking the temperature readings?!
 
SNova said:
Could be wrong but there hasn't been global warming for the past 10 or so years? Global temperature has cooled slightly. It's why they changed the name to climate change.
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A small amount of research finds that both terms are still used. Global warming is used to describe the rise in surface temperature of the earth, while climate change is used to describe all of the side effects of the rise in temperate. Eg; melting of glaciers, changes in weather etc.
 
Seanjd said:
If climate change/global warming is just a made up thing to keep scientists in a job, as you put it, how can you possibly explain the rise of surface, air and sea temperature over the last 50 years? Because that did actually happen.

Unless those scheming scientists are faking the temperature readings?!
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Therein is one of the issues mate, some facility was accused recently of doing just that, and when you factor in the neo-liberal corporate funding model, we no longer have independent scientists that pursue their discipline as an end-in-itself...
 
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