Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Uh oh. Someone’s posting who knows what they’re talking about

Joey will level him mate.

 

[Rob17896]

I got my Belgian citizenship at a cost of €127. I had to go to a centre and have a conversation in Dutch and fill out a few forms. The whole process took 6 months.

I just heard yesterday that the Danish husband of one of my friends, who has lived in the UK for 22 years, STILL has no word on his settled status, applied for dual citizenship a year ago and is still in limbo with no idea when a decision will be made. He had to travel to London and back from Skipton 4 times and the whole process has cost him to date over two thousand pounds.

What the hell has Britain become?!

What it always has been below the surface. An arrogant, colonial, racist, deluded bunch of WW2 winners who forgot that being an island on the same team as America and Russia may have helped.

I am totally ashamed of what we are and when we apply for EU membership again they should tell us to ...off.

Civilisation is real, it just passed the UK and America by.

 

[Mr. White]

For me, I have exported goods all over the world and know first hand how difficult it can be. Dealing with the EU was as simple as dealing with a company a mile down the road. Outside of EU trade is a mine field.

Classification plays a massive part, hence why people hear of things like Jaffa Cafe being a cake or a biscuit. I mean who cares... the tax man at the border does. Not so bad if it stays the same, but countries can re-classify things at will, and do.

I dont think people realise the knock on. Paperwork means additional miles for deliveries, extra delays. Stock being held up for days or even being returned if a standard isn't met. It's not just the cost of paperwork, take milk products for example. To export goods containing milk, certain lab tests must be done to ascertain compliance. A Vet must even be hired to oversee loading of the goods, all at massive cost and inconvenience. It really can be a lot more than a piece of paper. It once took me 6 months to get one container into Kenya, all because the classification here didn't match.

I was lucky to change my career two years ago and I was very happy to avoid having to treat the EU the same as the rest. The simplicity is really taken for granted. I've had a truck stuck on the Russian border for 3 days because the invoice was .003 cent different due to the system rounding it on one document and not the other. It's really not a fun situation.

And yet, the rest of the modern world copes just fine, outside of the EU....

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

And yet, the rest of the modern world copes just fine, outside of the EU....

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

And yet, the rest of the modern world copes just fine, outside of the EU....

Where is that then Putin's Russia, maybe Salman's Saudia Arabia...

 

[JimmyJeffers]

And yet, the rest of the modern world copes just fine, outside of the EU....

You’ve not read a single thing he’s said have you? You’ve just assumed it was an all out attack on brexit and responded by giving a typical anti Eu sound bite. Embarrassing

 

[Mr. White]

What have I missed? Do tell.

 

[bluejim95]

And yet, the rest of the modern world copes just fine, outside of the EU....

Yes, trade happens. I had probably one failure to deliver in my time. It's the time and resources to make it happen, it's a completely different beast. A lot more people dipping their hands in the pie, documents to apply for. Where does the cost go, on the invoice of course.

 

[Mr. White]

You’ve not read a single thing he’s said have you? You’ve just assumed it was an all out attack on brexit and responded by giving a typical anti Eu sound bite. Embarrassing

Nope. I read it. Three times.

 

[Mr. White]

Yes, trade happens. I had probably one failure to deliver in my time. It's the time and resources to make it happen, it's a completely different beast. A lot more people dipping their hands in the pie, documents to apply for. Where does the cost go, on the invoice of course.

Yes....the invoice of £350m a week?

Doesn't need a political union to make it happen though.

 

[bluejim95]

Yes....the invoice of £350m a week?

No, the £600 to have a Vet approved by Defra to stamp the documents, that took 2 attempts and £100 of costs to obtain. Plus the 3 days it took the Chamber of Commerce to print and send their set... luckily I didn't have to pay for someone to classify the goods as well. The cost of the time, the paperwork, absolutely everything went in.

Best hope it gets through as you wouldn't want to see the storage charges at port. If they get missed on this delivery, will be sure it's on the next invoice.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

What have I missed? Do tell.

When you create barriers to trade e.g. complexity, cost, customs and tariffs, then you make trade more difficult.

We’re willingly creating barriers to trade with the largest trading bloc on the planet, and our current largest trading partner.

 

[bluejim95]

Yes....the invoice of £350m a week?

Doesn't need a political union to make it happen though.

I see you added a political bit there. Honestly, I agree. It doesn't, but to think we are better off outside the single market, from having worked in that field, I just cant see it. My only guess as to why they might force a no deal is because they have identified certain areas where they know they can hike costs to bring the government money. Otherwise it's a whole lot of noise for nothing. Ultimately, business doesn't do it for free. The people will pay, not the companies.

 

[bluejim95]

Of course the other thing that never gets mentioned, try getting a container!! There cant be delays, the boat goes...

 

[Rob17896]

And yet, the rest of the modern world copes just fine, outside of the EU....

Other than Canada, no part of the modern world is as decent as the Scandi/EU countries. USA is an ...hole of a country as is the very racist Australia.Who wants anything to do with either?