They are protected by the EU and the minium standards set by the EU, that's like saying the good friday agreement should be a separate issue to leaving the EU, they might not have been at the forefront of leavers minds but these are things unavoidably linked to leaving or how how we leave the EU
Not quite the same... The GFA is very delicate and would require the cooperation of multiple countries. We're capable of setting our own workers' rights without the need of the EU. Leaving the EU means Labour has more freedom to implement what it wants, for example nationalising the railways and the trains (at the same time, which it can't currently do under EU law).
Not quite the same... The GFA is very delicate and would require the cooperation of multiple countries. We're capable of setting our own workers' rights without the need of the EU. Leaving the EU means Labour has more freedom to implement what it wants, for example nationalising the railways and the trains (at the same time, which it can't currently do under EU law).
We are capable of course as you say, the concern is the freedom a johnson led big business funded majority government would do with it. Another reason Labour were right to fight to take no deal off the table before an election
We are capable of course as you say, the concern is the freedom a johnson led big business funded majority government would do with it. Another reason Labour were right to fight to take no deal off the table before an election
Mmm.. Personally, I would support (yet another) GE after Brexit is carried out, so people can decide who they want in power, laying the foundations once EU laws no longer apply. I think would also favour Labour, as they would probably benefit from fighting a GE focusing more on domestic politics rather than what's been happening for the past few years.
We are capable of course as you say, the concern is the freedom a johnson led big business funded majority government would do with it. Another reason Labour were right to fight to take no deal off the table before an election
The British people were told it would be implement and voted in the tens of millions, each side of the debate believed the result mattered, parliament activated article 50 etc. etc. Stop using such slimy reasoning just because the vote didn't go how you wanted it to, bud. Whether it was legally binding or not, it told us what the people want. It'll be a travesty if it doesn't get implemented (but I'm sure it will eventually).
The legal position was (not anymore) that it was a non binding advisory referendum regardless of whether you accept that or not.
As for your assertion that it told us what the people want, well I fundamentally disagree. It told us that more people favoured Leave than Remain, but didn't tell anyone what 'Leave' meant or how it would look. It left it vague and open to interpretation, which is precisely the reason you are making statements about Parliament ignoring Brexit - they aren't ignoring it, they just cannot say with certainty what the public preferred position on Leave is.
Referendums in general should be complementary to representative democracy, not serve as a substitute to it. Cameron’s reckless decision to hold a referendum on EU membership was purely party-political. Membership of the EU should have been part of a discussion process in Parliament, where parliament could debate the concerns regarding EU membership and how they should be addressed, leading to a considered question on what sould be put before the British people.
Dr Alan Renwick, UCL, talked about this in an opinion pieve in the telegraph here:
SIR – A referendum result is democratically legitimate only if voters can make an informed decision.
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‘A referendum result is democratically legitimate only if voters can make an informed decision. Yet the level of misinformation in the current campaign is so great that democratic legitimacy is called into question’.
'A referendum is a mechanism for deciding between two options. It is not in itself a mechanism through which the form of those options can be developed’
You can see on this thread the numerous different positions on Leave let alone the individual preference of 17.4m people.
Mmm.. Personally, I would support (yet another) GE after Brexit is carried out, so people can decide who they want in power, laying the foundations once EU laws no longer apply. I think would also favour Labour, as they would probably benefit from fighting a GE focusing more on domestic politics rather than what's been happening for the past few years.
still leaves in pocket by about 10 billion by not paying into the EU pot in the same space of time thats without the rises that will come in with the next EU budget
still leaves in pocket by about 10 billion by not paying into the EU pot in the same space of time thats without the rises that will come in with the next EU budget
The same way that not buying groceries saves you a few hundred by not paying into the Tesco pot; and yet your long-term prospects suffer considerably even as you count your stacks of cash.
The same way that not buying groceries saves you a few hundred by not paying into the Tesco pot; and yet your long-term prospects suffer considerably even as you count your stacks of cash.
shop around to get the best deals don't get tied down by shopping just at Tesco and count the cash you save that way happy medium.
ps like parliament i am parking the EU bus for the GE i am on election mode, power to the people
shop around to get the best deals don't get tied down by shopping just at Tesco and count the cash you save that way happy medium.
ps like parliament i am parking the EU bus for the GE i am on election mode, power to the people
I do find it odd that a Government that supposedly wants to 'Get Brexit done' is deciding to have a General Election rather than just actually 'Getting Brexit Done'.
I do find it odd that a Government that supposedly wants to 'Get Brexit done' is deciding to have a General Election rather than just actually 'Getting Brexit Done'.
without a GE we will still be in the same boat we have been in for the last few years , break the dead lock one way or the other, i am no fan of this government by the way
without a GE we will still be in the same boat we have been in for the last few years , break the dead lock one way or the other, i am no fan of this government by the way
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