Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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It would be an act of insane stupidity to give johnson this mandate and unifying him with the brexit party vote, the worst tactical move and that's without considering that preventing a no deal brexit so the bannon tribe can get paid is absolutely the right priority for anyone with any morals whatsoever

TBH this notion that the Tories will win because they'll promise Brexit might well be one of those political orthodoxies that everyone believes but is actually wrong.

It would be almost embarassingly easy for any opposition to point out, entirely truthfully, that the Tories generally and Johnson in particular were responsible for delivering the Brexit they promised and have failed to do so. Johnson voted against a deal twice, Rees-Mogg twice, Patel and Raab three times - they caused the first delay (from March 2019) themselves. The 2017 election was fought on a promise to deliver Brexit - "Brexit means Brexit", don't forget - and they failed to do it; Johnson negotiated his latest deal and failed to deliver it because of his actions in losing the support of the DUP and his own ex-Tories.

In short if voters want Brexit to be delivered, the Tories are the people who failed to deliver it up to now. I'd expect Labour at least (probably the BP as well) to be hammering home that message and I'd be amazed if it didn't work.
 
If he refuses an election now, with no deal off the table, he will be totally and completely unelectable forever. Even his own supporters will turn on him.

If the extension is to January, the GE happens 12 December, no doubt in my mind.

This is what should happen, but I still believe he will chicken out......
 
or as someone said on another forum I frequent "Oborne has really got to them..."
Splendid bit of work from Oborne. I posted the article in here yesterday before he went on C4. It was refreshing to hear him call Kuenssberg & Peston out by name. His opine that 'they've transformed themselves into nothing more than a sewer' was incredibly cutting.
 
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