Current Affairs EU In or Out

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  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%
  • Total voters
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peteblue said:
If you agree with him, if you don’t then he makes little sense. He was on about scrutiny the other day and rose to his full height to say that time and thought needs to be given to new laws. When it was thrown back that the Benn Act was bounced through and onto the statute book in days he looked a bit crestfallen......
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There's a difference in that the Benn Act had to happen against a deadline to stop a very specific outcome.

If the PM hadn't put so much emphasis on an artificial deadline, the Benn Act wouldn't have been required at all.

It comes back to what I say to you time and time again - if you're looking for someone to blame for this, look at the PM and then go down the list. There is absolutely no reason he has to stick to the 31 October deadline if he respected the sovereignty of parliament.
 
Charlie Sweet said:
@peteblue you're okay with your village getting, on average, 8% poorer?
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Nahh they'll be fine, they all gather round the piano at the pub under the picture of Farage to have sing along:

Making your way in the EU today
Takes everything you got
Taking a break from all your worries
It sure would help a lot
Wouldn't you like to get away?

Sometimes you want to go
Where everybody knows how to spell your name
And their nationalities are all the same.
You want to be where you can see
The troubles in NI are inflamed
You want to be where everybody knows how to spell your name
 
JEBUS_LIVES said:
Point still stands Pete.

You have dismissed it, yet you have clearly no idea what it contributes to the UK economy. Fishing though eh...

Still waiting for the industry support for Brexit that you stated as well.
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I haven’t dismissed the games industry, I have dismissed your response as if it was the clinching argument. Product development will still take place in the U.K. whether we are in or out of the EU.....
 
Tubey said:
There's a difference in that the Benn Act had to happen against a deadline to stop a very specific outcome.

If the PM hadn't put so much emphasis on an artificial deadline, the Benn Act wouldn't have been required at all.

It comes back to what I say to you time and time again - if you're looking for someone to blame for this, look at the PM and then go down the list. There is absolutely no reason he has to stick to the 31 October deadline if he respected the sovereignty of parliament.
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The law said we leave on 31st Oct. He was respecting the law, the referendum decision, the enactment by Parliament of article 50, the manifesto commitments of both main parties, and the public.......
 
peteblue said:
The law said we leave on 31st Oct. He was respecting the law, the referendum decision, the enactment by Parliament of article 50, the manifesto commitments of both main parties, and the public.......
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I've just said this was the reason for the Benn Act being 'time is of the essence'.

The problem with the WA - and by extension the difference with the Benn Act - is the weight of it. It's like challenging someone to read and then write a dissertation on War and Peace inside three days. It's also forms the basis of a treaty rather than an act of parliament, so it has vastly more consequence (the Benn Act has already expired.)

To be blunt, you tried to show a contradiction in Grieve's stance where one didn't exist. I don't agree with Grieve on everything but he does express an understanding of the subjects he discusses, which is more than can be said for many in the HoC right now who just want this done, whatever the WA says or does.
 
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