Current Affairs EU In or Out

[peteblue]

Pete. I have one word - why?

Waste time writing such gibberish.

For a minor nation we have held centre ground determining whether Brexit happens. The EU have not thrown us under a bus. The very opposite.

In that post Brexit world your first dash will be to Washington. Good luck with Congress if your fellow countrymen share a similar sentiment towards the emerlad isle.

It’s not a competition. Brexit will soon be over, time moves on, the EU did not throw you under a bus and that’s great, but your time in the limelight will now cease.

The deal Boris has done will keep the USA happy so there is no problem.....

 

[Blues Harp]

I now know that my children and granddaughter will be part of a free and independent country.....

Absolute crap....we were before brexshite..you are the epitome of a scummy non caring Tory...how will I benefit? You cannot answer can you?

 

[Blues Harp]

It’s not a competition. Brexit will soon be over, time moves on, the EU did not throw you under a bus and that’s great, but your time in the limelight will now cease.

The deal Boris has done will keep the USA happy so there is no problem.....

Why the feck do we need to keep the orange shitgibbon happy?

 

[peteblue]

Bonnie Greer and the speaker of the house in the states might disagree with you

The lady was correct, Ireland owes the U.K. nothing. But this deal moves us all forward. What she didn’t say of course is that the U.K. owes Ireland nothing, and we will see how that plays over the next decade....

 

[Armaghtoffee]

I’m sorry, but we all are what we are. I know that the U.K. is not some global empire as it once was, we are what we are, and I’m quite happy to be a nondescript country able to trade, provide employment, have a decent standard of living and still be a military player. The ROI has all of these things apart from the last one, but you don’t actually need it. Just be happy with what you are. I would love to live in the ROI and just accept we are what we are, a lovely place to live....

I read that as if your batteries were running out as you typed.

 

[spectateur]

I now know that my children and granddaughter will be part of a free and independent country.....

Oh no it won't. Your country will eventually become a vassal state, a colony of the USA.

 

[Brisan123]

The lady was correct, Ireland owes the U.K. nothing. But this deal moves us all forward. What she didn’t say of course is that the U.K. owes Ireland nothing, and we will see how that plays over the next decade....

As Obama said
When trade deals are being handed out in Washington ,Britain will be at the back of the queue

 

[tsubaki]

I must have missed this, please explain....

You've missed lots of it, though "missed" is being generous given that you've probably ignored all of it.

For a start, the deal in effect permanently puts the North in the EU customs area (rather than May's deal, which put us all in a temporary customs area); under this if goods go from Liverpool to Belfast and they are "at risk" of going to Dublin or any other part of the EU, customs duties must be paid. This will mean that everything will have custom duties paid on it (indeed the deal assumes this when it says that the UK will be responsible for refunding anything that duties are paid incorrectly). There will almost certainly be EU officials (probably from the Republic) at ports of entry into NI to make sure duties rules are followed as well - the deal gives them that right.

Standards of goods will also follow EU rules rather than the UK's in NI, which will - combined with Johnson's wish to lower our standards - mean that goods standards here will probably quickly become a lot different than they are there, which will mean they get their goods from there rather than here because "ours" will not be legal there.

What will exacerbate a lot of this will be the economic effect of the deal on the mainland UK - which is going to be considerable (though less than no deal), and the humiliation that Unionists will suffer by being so blatantly screwed by this. Sooner or later someone is going to suggest that the North needs closer ties to the EU rather than the UK, and a majority of the NI population will agree with it.

 

[Carl O'Ancelotti]

Bonnie Greer and the speaker of the house in the states might disagree with you

Nancy Pelosi and Senator Ryan were confirming this only last night. Anyone that thinks that Johnson wasn't swayed by the warnings from Irish America that there would be no UK-US trade deal if the GFA was threatened needs to think again.

But "no one at the top gives a crap about a pain in the arse country the same size as south London " apparently. lol

 

[dead_soft]

The lady was correct, Ireland owes the U.K. nothing. But this deal moves us all forward. What she didn’t say of course is that the U.K. owes Ireland nothing, and we will see how that plays over the next decade....

‘The lady’ about Bonnie Greer - come on, be better than that.
And Ireland has had enough done to it by the UK that it can at least own up to it. It’s the reason there’s a current threat to its peace.

 

[Armaghtoffee]

The lady was correct, Ireland owes the U.K. nothing. But this deal moves us all forward. What she didn’t say of course is that the U.K. owes Ireland nothing, and we will see how that plays over the next decade....

Bed Pete, GOT has been here before.

 

[peteblue]

Absolute crap....we were before brexshite..you are the epitome of a scummy non caring Tory...how will I benefit? You cannot answer can you?

Oh dear, yes you are correct I have no idea how you will benefit. But then again, I don’t know you, what you do, where you live, what your circumstances are, how old you are etc etc....so how the hell could anyone answer your question....

 

[peteblue]

Why the feck do we need to keep the orange shitgibbon happy?

not a clue what you are on about.....

 

[peteblue]

You've missed lots of it, though "missed" is being generous given that you've probably ignored all of it.

For a start, the deal in effect permanently puts the North in the EU customs area (rather than May's deal, which put us all in a temporary customs area); under this if goods go from Liverpool to Belfast and they are "at risk" of going to Dublin or any other part of the EU, customs duties must be paid. This will mean that everything will have custom duties paid on it (indeed the deal assumes this when it says that the UK will be responsible for refunding anything that duties are paid incorrectly). There will almost certainly be EU officials (probably from the Republic) at ports of entry into NI to make sure duties rules are followed as well - the deal gives them that right.

Standards of goods will also follow EU rules rather than the UK's in NI, which will - combined with Johnson's wish to lower our standards - mean that goods standards here will probably quickly become a lot different than they are there, which will mean they get their goods from there rather than here because "ours" will not be legal there.

What will exacerbate a lot of this will be the economic effect of the deal on the mainland UK - which is going to be considerable (though less than no deal), and the humiliation that Unionists will suffer by being so blatantly screwed by this. Sooner or later someone is going to suggest that the North needs closer ties to the EU rather than the UK, and a majority of the NI population will agree with it.

so are you for it or against it.....

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Yet all the way through this, Remainers have been saying that the EU will not open the WA, which they did, nor allow any changes, which they have. So I’ll take your view of bluffing with a proverbial pinch of salt......

If by opening it you mean rolling it back to an older version that Johnson has already said he'd be crazy to want, then yes. You're easily hoodwinked Pete.