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peteblue said:
No mate, that’s not my thinking of what I want, just my view of what is happening. Corbyn is doing similar all based on a potential GE result and you know it.

You are right, this isn’t a game, it is deadly serious and that ridiculous Benn act will go down in history for the political opportunism it was.....
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Makes you wonder how the UK is going to get a great deal when such a horrendous act is preventing us negotiating properly.
 
Mark O'Silver said:
They've been telling us for the last 2 years on here that the backstop would be ditched and the EU would withdraw it's backing for the Irish government's position when push came to shove.

Today it seems that the person who was 'elected' on a promise to kick ass with the EU, has backed down and accepted the backstop (albeit with a slight change in it's wording) because the penny has finally dropped that EU weren't going to abandon their position. Some of us have been telling them this for 2 years but they wouldn't listen.

It was always all about saving his own skin for Johnson. This is about trying to get the Tory party re-elected with him at the helm and nothing else. The pursuit of power trumps everything for them. Carson's words a century ago are as true today as they were then.
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Aftre the dust has setled on any 'deal', the interesting thing over this side of the water is how the BXT Party react. There'll be plenty there for him to get his teeth into.
 
peteblue said:
No mate, that’s not my thinking of what I want, just my view of what is happening. Corbyn is doing similar all based on a potential GE result and you know it.

You are right, this isn’t a game, it is deadly serious and that ridiculous Benn act will go down in history for the political opportunism it was.....
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Politicians do what politicians do. You dont have to think that way though.

You should be looking at Johnson's deal (even more of a humiliation than May's - the one you gave stick to her for negotiating). There's no consistency or principle there that I'm seeing. How can you accept this and not May's deal?
 
JEBUS_LIVES said:
Farage is never going for this.

I suspect it's going to be a difficult few days for @Joey66.

Torn between BOJO and NIFA...who to believe?!?
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My hope is that Farage is going for Johnson's throat. He's the only one that can hurt him from the right wing and outlflank him.

He should go for Johnson and lambast him for talking up the Benn Act as 'surrender' and then ACTUALLY surrendering to the EU himself.
 
davek said:
My hope is that Farage is going for Johnson's throat. He's the only one that can hurt him from the right wing and outlflank him.

He should go for Johnson and lambast him for talking up the Benn Act as 'surrender' and then ACTUALLY surrendering to the EU himself.
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Without wanting to agree with Farage (though I don't know what his stance is yet) on anything, in Brexit terms, based on the rhetoric he will be absolutely right.

JEBUS_LIVES said:
Bizarre that the UK position on the 'easiest deal in history' has gone from 'holding all the cards' and being begged for a deal by the EU and German car industry, to celebrating any old deal, which will demonstrably worse than anything previously negotiated by the UK and the EU.

I could understand the 'lets get the best deal we can' logic and even the 'to hell with it' No Deal option, but I do not understand this acceptance of any deal no matter how much we concede.

In Brexit terms, Boris and his cronies have snatched surrender from the jaws of defeat.
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