Your pretty spot on to be honest with that post pal.
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Your pretty spot on to be honest with that post pal.
Can't see the liberals voting for corbyn as the as leader not the 20 odd Tory floaters ...........
It had to happen one day, took me about 7 years of posting to get there
They clearly didn't and no matter how much you repeat it, it doesn't make it true.
roydo
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Cant quite get my bonce round this. Am I being weapon grade stupid by saying that what ever way you look at this, at the end of the day, the Prime Minister of the UK is actively trying any way he can to circumvent a law made by the UK House of Commons?
Or have I missed sommet?
Pretty much, instead of spending the month trying to get a better deal and an alternative to the 'undemocratic' backstop, they're holed up in a bunker with the best lawyers in the country actively trying to break the law, or trying to find a loophole that makes whos right murky and will need another supreme court battle
orchard
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Yeah, but it's been on the cards for yonks, and manifested in government answers to questions in the HoC of late.
The opposition will have to unite to form a government and discuss a compromise deal with the eu. There's no reason (except tory spivness) that we can't maintain eu standards for the time being, and insist all future changes be approved by Parliament.
Bingo
Like the way a public school toff would worm out of something after being caught red handed doing it
Nope that's correct.
peteblue
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oh I don’t know, good of the country or something...demonstration of actual leadership maybe........
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
What kind of deal did they promise then...
The easiest one ever made .... apparently
You think a hardcore Leftist like Corbyn thinks that providing the Tories with a majority and mandate is good for the country, even without the pressing concern of a cliff-edge no deal Brexipice? Did you pick the wrong week to stop sniffing glue or something?
The country placed their faith in the Tories to form a government. It's not the job of the Opposition to get them off the rather tricky hook they're now squirming around on thanks to their own poor decisions. If Johnson wants an election so badly he can remove the barrier to it by sending a letter now to the EU requesting an extension (the Benn bill only specfies a deadline) and then the parties will be ready to rumble. Johnson though is an utterly craven coward who (like May) is just stringing along for time hoping something comes up that will sort his problem out, but (unlike May) isn't actually willing to put any effort into achieving it.
As ever, Chris Grey's blog makes excellent reading
https://chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.com/
A very relevant extract pasted below:
"The Ultra Brexiters would have been far happier had they lost. They want something to object to, rather than an alternative. They want to campaign against, rather than create. To complain, rather than to take responsibility.
For they could have had their Brexit by now had they really wanted it. Instead, step by step, lie by lie, they have torched soft Brexit, torched hard Brexit, and indeed rejected any concrete form of Brexit as a betrayal of some imagined ‘true’ Brexit. Hence gradually the onion skins have been peeled away until the fetid heart of it is exposed: not a policy but an undeliverable fantasy composed of lies and articulated in the language of spite, contempt and hate. That was once the preserve of a few fanatics. Their terrible achievement has been to spread the fantasy and the language to a much larger number, though still a minority, of the population.
Their desire, shown in their constant lie to that effect, is to claim it as the view of every single one of the 17.4 million people, most of whom had no such intention, and none of whom were told that it meant smashing the economy and every institution of democratic society, the possible dissolution of the United Kingdom, and the instigation of a permanent culture war.
Their final mendacity is to insist that this is not just the choice of that narrow majority of those who voted, but the settled will of ‘the people’ in their entirety and opposed only by some shadowy elite or establishment. "
https://chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.com/
A very relevant extract pasted below:
"The Ultra Brexiters would have been far happier had they lost. They want something to object to, rather than an alternative. They want to campaign against, rather than create. To complain, rather than to take responsibility.
For they could have had their Brexit by now had they really wanted it. Instead, step by step, lie by lie, they have torched soft Brexit, torched hard Brexit, and indeed rejected any concrete form of Brexit as a betrayal of some imagined ‘true’ Brexit. Hence gradually the onion skins have been peeled away until the fetid heart of it is exposed: not a policy but an undeliverable fantasy composed of lies and articulated in the language of spite, contempt and hate. That was once the preserve of a few fanatics. Their terrible achievement has been to spread the fantasy and the language to a much larger number, though still a minority, of the population.
Their desire, shown in their constant lie to that effect, is to claim it as the view of every single one of the 17.4 million people, most of whom had no such intention, and none of whom were told that it meant smashing the economy and every institution of democratic society, the possible dissolution of the United Kingdom, and the instigation of a permanent culture war.
Their final mendacity is to insist that this is not just the choice of that narrow majority of those who voted, but the settled will of ‘the people’ in their entirety and opposed only by some shadowy elite or establishment. "
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