Charlie Sweet
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Exactly. The current set of MPs are a more recent expression of democratic will than the result of the referendum.
And neither the Labour manifesto nor the other opposition parties promised a No Deal.
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Exactly. The current set of MPs are a more recent expression of democratic will than the result of the referendum.
And neither the Labour manifesto nor the other opposition parties promised a No Deal.
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what does that have to do with it? People voted for a no deal. Simple.
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New Statesman
27 SEPTEMBER 2019
British Army corporal tweets Angela Rayner will “perish” in Brexit “civil war”
A serving British soldier has issued a death threat to the shadow education secretary.
A corporal in the British Army issued a death threat to a Labour MP and appeared to incite “civil war” on Twitter on Wednesday afternoon.
The corporal, whose Twitter account has now been deleted, wrote to Rayner: “Ohh **** off you stupid bitch” and said the MP would “perish when civil war comes and it’s coming”. The soldier ended the tweet by adding that “17.4 million people are gunning for blood if we don’t leave”.
The Ministry of Defence confirmed to the New Statesman this morning that the corporal "is a serving member of the Armed Forces”.
However, the MoD did not say that it would investigate the tweet, saying instead that it "has been referred to the civilian authorities to investigate." A spokesperson added: “The Army is a politically neutral organisation and holds its people to the highest standards.”
The tweet was sent in response to Rayner’s condemnation of comments made on Monday by the Attorney General, Geoffrey Cox, describing parliament as “dead” and a “disgrace” for refusing to offer his party an early general election. Rayner shared a screenshot of the reply from the corporal, describing it as an example of the “usual vile tweet I get daily”.
Another statement made by the same soldier on social media described Jo Swinson as "dangerous" and threatened that the Liberal Democrats' position on Brexit could lead to "civil war". A comment made under the corporal's name on the UK Defence Journal website argued that migrants should be sent back to their home countries because they "try impose their way of life into us".
The British Army has come under increasing scrutiny to do more in the face of right-wing extremism in recent years, following a number of incidents involving service members. In May, the army released a leaflet entitled “Extreme Right Wing (XRW) Indicators & Warnings” to help alert defence staff to soldiers who show signs of extremism. The army was also forced to discipline troops when footage emerged showing soldiers in Afghanistan using a picture of Jeremy Corbyn for target practice. At the time, the Ministry of Defence said the video was “not fitting of the high standards we expect”.
On the same evening that the corporal’s tweet was sent the MP for Dewsbury, Paula Sherriff, asked Boris Johnson to moderate his rhetoric after he described parliament’s opposition to a no-deal Brexit as a “surrender” that would “betray the people”. Sherriff protested that such language endanger MPs such as herself who are “subject to death threats and abuse every single day”. The Prime Minister responded: “I have never heard such humbug in all my life”.
27 SEPTEMBER 2019
British Army corporal tweets Angela Rayner will “perish” in Brexit “civil war”
A serving British soldier has issued a death threat to the shadow education secretary.
A corporal in the British Army issued a death threat to a Labour MP and appeared to incite “civil war” on Twitter on Wednesday afternoon.
The corporal, whose Twitter account has now been deleted, wrote to Rayner: “Ohh **** off you stupid bitch” and said the MP would “perish when civil war comes and it’s coming”. The soldier ended the tweet by adding that “17.4 million people are gunning for blood if we don’t leave”.
The Ministry of Defence confirmed to the New Statesman this morning that the corporal "is a serving member of the Armed Forces”.
However, the MoD did not say that it would investigate the tweet, saying instead that it "has been referred to the civilian authorities to investigate." A spokesperson added: “The Army is a politically neutral organisation and holds its people to the highest standards.”
The tweet was sent in response to Rayner’s condemnation of comments made on Monday by the Attorney General, Geoffrey Cox, describing parliament as “dead” and a “disgrace” for refusing to offer his party an early general election. Rayner shared a screenshot of the reply from the corporal, describing it as an example of the “usual vile tweet I get daily”.
Another statement made by the same soldier on social media described Jo Swinson as "dangerous" and threatened that the Liberal Democrats' position on Brexit could lead to "civil war". A comment made under the corporal's name on the UK Defence Journal website argued that migrants should be sent back to their home countries because they "try impose their way of life into us".
The British Army has come under increasing scrutiny to do more in the face of right-wing extremism in recent years, following a number of incidents involving service members. In May, the army released a leaflet entitled “Extreme Right Wing (XRW) Indicators & Warnings” to help alert defence staff to soldiers who show signs of extremism. The army was also forced to discipline troops when footage emerged showing soldiers in Afghanistan using a picture of Jeremy Corbyn for target practice. At the time, the Ministry of Defence said the video was “not fitting of the high standards we expect”.
On the same evening that the corporal’s tweet was sent the MP for Dewsbury, Paula Sherriff, asked Boris Johnson to moderate his rhetoric after he described parliament’s opposition to a no-deal Brexit as a “surrender” that would “betray the people”. Sherriff protested that such language endanger MPs such as herself who are “subject to death threats and abuse every single day”. The Prime Minister responded: “I have never heard such humbug in all my life”.
Charlie Sweet
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This whole Brexit farce really does erode your belief in the basic intelligence of humanity.
So, for a No Deal Brexit, the government has to plan to mitigate for rhe negative effects as if it was emergency planning for a huge natural disaster or a war.
Notice theres no talk about needing to safeguard or restrict UK business riding out into the world like the old Wild West to dramatically profit from a No Deal. Actuay theres no talk of anything good whatsoever only a distant fantasy that it might be good in the end.
If 15 years ago someone had said it would be like this you'd have laughed. The world has gone mad. I blame the global recession and the following austerity drives for giving rise to this naked disenchantment with the so called establishment and thereby allowing spivs like Trump, Johnson and Farage to thrive.
Bad times!
So, for a No Deal Brexit, the government has to plan to mitigate for rhe negative effects as if it was emergency planning for a huge natural disaster or a war.
Notice theres no talk about needing to safeguard or restrict UK business riding out into the world like the old Wild West to dramatically profit from a No Deal. Actuay theres no talk of anything good whatsoever only a distant fantasy that it might be good in the end.
If 15 years ago someone had said it would be like this you'd have laughed. The world has gone mad. I blame the global recession and the following austerity drives for giving rise to this naked disenchantment with the so called establishment and thereby allowing spivs like Trump, Johnson and Farage to thrive.
Bad times!
Are you trying to convince others of this outright lie, or just yourself?
Doesn't that answer your question on why there isn't an election happening right now then? Johnson is running a zombie government right now and has limited power. If Corbyn believes that an election is going to just hand Johnson a new majority and a mandate for governance then in what world would it make sense to agree to one?
Is the level of brainwashing in the forces getting worse, or are you just more likely to sign up if you are a violent rabid right wing stooge?
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Most of them voted to put Victoria back on the throne, grow big sidies and put the women and fuzzy wuzzies back in their place.
Have we always been at war with Eurasia mate?
Funny how the narrative has changed in the years since. You're been manipulated so brilliantly you now think you've been pro-catastrophe all this time.
Charlie Sweet
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That's not true Deirdre is it? The dodgy vote was to leave the EU. Simple. F%$& all was said as to how, and in what manner, we should leave!
When I’m fully out in January I’ll speak freely about it. Hint hint.
You know well people voted leave expecting a deal.
By your rationale, people voted in a non binding referendum so no one should be surprised if it's not acted on.
I do know loads of lads who haven't changed much in the forces and a fair few who became better people, but i also know a fair chunk who became full on tory, pro israel etc for no other reason seemingly than it being a military thing according to their colleagues
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To be fair, you defend noncey Michael Jackson, so I can't really take you seriously...
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