Current Affairs EU In or Out

[allezlesbleus]

Aha, so the utterance of a slow witted person, not your mum, the original dummy of course. . Thought (thunk) it might be. Thanks.

Haha!! Yep, said for effect usually rather than anyone other than the original dummy thinking it to be correct. Don’t let old ma Allezlesbleus think you think she was slow on the uptake! She’ll come back from the grave to give you a clip round the ear!!

 

[dublinbluenose]

 

[davek]

The DUP: they're caving in aren't they?

"...where it was appropriate and EU legislation was necessary to keep the free flow of trade across the Irish border, especially in the agrifood industry, and where it didn’t damage our relationships with our biggest market in GB, then, of course, that’s the kind of thing that the North Ireland assembly should be open to consider, and that would not be opposed to that kind of arrangement." - Sammy Wilson.

 

[micknick]

Firstly, can I respectfully ask that you don't mention me in this thread again. Because of posts like this I have no desire to come in here any more and had put the thread creator on ignore (sorry @micknick, nothing personal) specifically to stop me coming in here.

But seeing as you have made the effort to single me out, I'll give you the courtesy of a response.

I don't know why you think I believed a no deal Brexit is all scare mongering and project fear. I have always spoken out against no deal and have frequently acknowledged the negative impact it could have on the country, both economically and logistically. I may have mocked the odd post where ridiculous claims have been made. Such as the one where all our aircraft would be grounded because they wouldn't be allowed to fly in European airspace. And I may also have put people straight who believed our financial sector would fall apart in the event of no deal. But overall I have generally condemned no deal for the crisis it will be.

I have read the report and there is nothing in there I didn't expect to see. I could point out that they do stress this is a worst case scenario and the chances are the reality will not prove to be as bad as this, or that the Govt will undoubtedly be taking many steps to mitigate the effects of the most serious matters such as medication supplies etc. But I guess they're not things you would wish to hear so will just dismiss them anyway. Another reason why I'm staying out of here.

I hate you anyway Fred.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

lol lol lol

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Public now believes immigration can be controlled without Brexit, poll finds

Even Leave supporters now say existing EU rules provide ‘enough control’ on migration from the continent

www.independent.co.uk

Voters – including Leave supporters – said they now judge that existing EU rules provide “enough control” on incomers from the continent, without the need for the UK to pull out.

Far from demanding an immigration crackdown, no less than 71 per cent support allowing EU migrants to come to the UK either to work or study – including 62 per cent of Leave voters from 2016.

The results represent a striking shift from three years ago, when a widespread anti-immigration sentiment fuelled the Brexit vote, rather than a general revolt against the system as many politicians claimed.

Crucially, the researchers at University College London put it down to “missing information” – because so many people were unaware about the existing controls back in 2016.

Really is time to knock this on the head now.

 

[The binman chronicles]

Public now believes immigration can be controlled without Brexit, poll finds

Even Leave supporters now say existing EU rules provide ‘enough control’ on migration from the continent

www.independent.co.uk

Really is time to knock this on the head now.

That's not the 'can do' attitude that won two world wars is it now Bruce.

It always boggles my mind why when Cameron came back from trying to get a better deal before the referendum, he didn't make a point of these controls and start using them to bring in public awareness. It might not of have changed minds at that point seeing they were so rabid, but it at least would have been something to try!

 

[Bruce Wayne]

That's not the 'can do' attitude that won two world wars is it now Bruce.

It always boggles my mind why when Cameron came back from trying to get a better deal before the referendum, he didn't make a point of these controls and start using them to bring in public awareness. It might not of have changed minds at that point seeing they were so rabid, but it at least would have been something to try!

It just shows how easily many are led by
LBC the media

 

[neil999]

So how do i get into this disaster capitalism lark?

 

[Kev The Rat]

Swinson refusing any kind of electoral pact with Corbyn makes an election in the near future much less likely now

 

[davek]

Swinson refusing any kind of electoral pact with Corbyn makes an election in the near future much less likely now

The minor English parties will do deals, I'm sure.

But the LP must go for every seat. The Lib Dems are a neo-liberal party. No way will Labour do electoral deals with them. (That said, I'm sure the calculations will be made in constituencies where Labour stand little chance of the win to concentrate resources elsewhere).

The most likely post election scenario is the SNP, LDs and Plaid propping up a Labour Government.

 

[Kev The Rat]

The minor English parties will do deals, I'm sure.

But the LP must go for every seat. The Lib Dems are a neo-liberal party. No way will Labour do electoral deals with them. (That said, I'm sure the calculations will be made in constituencies where Labour stand little chance of the win to concentrate resources elsewhere).

The most likely post election scenario is the SNP, LDs and Plaid propping up a Labour Government.

She’s openly stated she won’t do a supply and confidence arrangement ala DUP

Swinson dismissed the possibility of supporting Corbyn along the lines of the Democratic Unionist party’s confidence-and-supply arrangement with the Conservatives. “I don’t know how I can be clearer – I do not think he is fit to be prime minister. He is trying to take our country into Brexit. He has failed to tackle antisemitism in his own party.”

A post-election hung parliament could see Swinson cast as the powerbroker, potentially able to put Corbyn or Johnson into Downing Street. Neither would happen, she said.

“Jeremy Corbyn is not fit to be prime minister. Boris Johnson is not fit to be prime minister. On a daily basis we get evidence of both of those things,” she said.

 

[Khalekan]

The DUP: they're caving in aren't they?

"...where it was appropriate and EU legislation was necessary to keep the free flow of trade across the Irish border, especially in the agrifood industry, and where it didn’t damage our relationships with our biggest market in GB, then, of course, that’s the kind of thing that the North Ireland assembly should be open to consider, and that would not be opposed to that kind of arrangement." - Sammy Wilson.

Facing cold, hard reality now.

The moment Johnson declared he “would die in a ditch” etc. the DUP was going under tye bus because the NI only Backstop is the only thing keeping him out of that ditch.

 

[Khalekan]

She’s openly stated she won’t do a supply and confidence arrangement ala DUP

Swinson dismissed the possibility of supporting Corbyn along the lines of the Democratic Unionist party’s confidence-and-supply arrangement with the Conservatives. “I don’t know how I can be clearer – I do not think he is fit to be prime minister. He is trying to take our country into Brexit. He has failed to tackle antisemitism in his own party.”

A post-election hung parliament could see Swinson cast as the powerbroker, potentially able to put Corbyn or Johnson into Downing Street. Neither would happen, she said.

“Jeremy Corbyn is not fit to be prime minister. Boris Johnson is not fit to be prime minister. On a daily basis we get evidence of both of those things,” she said.

Thanks for posting that, Kev.

I was starting to warm to her a bit but you have reminded me what a shrill, pompous bint she is.

 

[davek]

She’s openly stated she won’t do a supply and confidence arrangement ala DUP

Swinson dismissed the possibility of supporting Corbyn along the lines of the Democratic Unionist party’s confidence-and-supply arrangement with the Conservatives. “I don’t know how I can be clearer – I do not think he is fit to be prime minister. He is trying to take our country into Brexit. He has failed to tackle antisemitism in his own party.”

A post-election hung parliament could see Swinson cast as the powerbroker, potentially able to put Corbyn or Johnson into Downing Street. Neither would happen, she said.

“Jeremy Corbyn is not fit to be prime minister. Boris Johnson is not fit to be prime minister. On a daily basis we get evidence of both of those things,” she said.

Yeah, I read what she said. She'll say something VERY different when offered a chance of weilding some power rather than just being a party with about 40 seats.

How many politicians do you know who'll keep their pre-election pledges?