Can you forward this on to Kate Hoey plsthx. Vauxhall voted over 77% to remain and she (a Labour MP ffs) has voted with the government on every single Brexit vote.
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Can you forward this on to Kate Hoey plsthx. Vauxhall voted over 77% to remain and she (a Labour MP ffs) has voted with the government on every single Brexit vote.
Feel the same Tubey,
It will be intresting in court next week not as cut and dry as some think scottish law and English ,northern ireland law are all very diffrent the supreme court has to sort of balance it out and come to a conclusion.
Good luck with that
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tsubaki
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I thought the decision was that the act of proroguing Parliament wasn't illegal itself, but that presenting the advice saying that Parliament should be prorogued to the Queen was because advice did not contain the true reasons as to why the Prime Minister wanted to do it (and therefore what followed must not happen)?
If that is true - that he misled the Queen - then Grieve is right; he has to resign (not that I think HM was mislead though).
sbbefc
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There is absolutely no chance this "poor language removed" will resign.
davek
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A passage from Paul Mason's article today in the Guardian on thre mindset required for this mess to happen:
"I don’t want to encourage paranoia, but as a mental exercise ask yourself: if there was a single mind coordinating this crisis, what would it be thinking now?
First, that the fragility of the unwritten constitution is a proven fact. If parliament can be prorogued once, it can be prorogued again.
Second, that parts of the British media have no stomach for the task of actively defending the rule of law and the principle of accountability.
Third, that an atmosphere of weariness is descending on the mass of people. They were already weary of Brexit and are now getting weary of endless headlines about a constitutional crisis that never seems to end.
In the 1930s, the psychologist Erich Fromm noted that the ideal conditions for the rise of dictators and autocrats was a “state of inner tiredness and resignation”, which he attributed to the pace of life in stressed, industrialised societies.
Among the German working class, Fromm observed “a deep feeling of resignation, of disbelief in their leaders, of doubt about the value of any kind of political organization and political activity … deep within themselves many had given up any hope in the effectiveness of political action”.
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"I don’t want to encourage paranoia, but as a mental exercise ask yourself: if there was a single mind coordinating this crisis, what would it be thinking now?
First, that the fragility of the unwritten constitution is a proven fact. If parliament can be prorogued once, it can be prorogued again.
Second, that parts of the British media have no stomach for the task of actively defending the rule of law and the principle of accountability.
Third, that an atmosphere of weariness is descending on the mass of people. They were already weary of Brexit and are now getting weary of endless headlines about a constitutional crisis that never seems to end.
In the 1930s, the psychologist Erich Fromm noted that the ideal conditions for the rise of dictators and autocrats was a “state of inner tiredness and resignation”, which he attributed to the pace of life in stressed, industrialised societies.
Among the German working class, Fromm observed “a deep feeling of resignation, of disbelief in their leaders, of doubt about the value of any kind of political organization and political activity … deep within themselves many had given up any hope in the effectiveness of political action”.
Chaos is being normalised. It is all part of Boris Johnson’s pernicious plan | Paul Mason
The prime minister has deliberately brought darkness to our democracy and to our streets. We must resist, says writer and broadcaster Paul Mason
tsubaki
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I don't think he'd have a choice; the reason the Tory Party has lasted this long is that they've always let the captain go down to the ship whilst the party gets in the lifeboat. If Boris isn't controlled (and remember he hasn't even been PM for two months yet) they will end up wiping out the pragmatic Tory MP as a species (and thus removing 15-30% of their vote), the party will continue to be filled with spivs rather than people who have at least actually done something (indeed the lack of anything like a serious opponent to Johnson showed that earlier this summer) and they will inevitably be politically blamed for him when he finally goes down in flames (as they were in 1945 when Chamberlain's ghost returned with such a vengeance).
The Boris Johnson Show was only acceptable to them when it looked like he was guaranteed to win big; if he does worse or no better than what May did is it really worth all this?
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Bet it's the FBPE lot
tsubaki
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That we have an unelected Head of State is one of the few remaining things that work in our politics. Can you imagine what the last forty years of British Presidents would have been like?
tsubaki
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He would, and if he didn't he would be removed.
roydo
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I agree. They have no power, have little choice what they do, and at least we know who the next 3 will be.
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