Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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He arrived into this thread an hour ago pissed as a fart, immediately quoted one of my posts and called for me to be banned, then launched into a long winded personal diatribe against me. The man cannot hide his bigotry against Irish people. It's been like that for a long time on here.

And both myself and @Groucho have politely requested you stop polluting this thread with your spat, to take your spat elsewhere or potentially face moderation.
Final warning !!!
 
I honestly think we can do anything. Our country is so great and we should be proud. Think about the hero’s of the Somme, or the Brave men who stormed the beaches.

We will never ever ever surrender to the EU. I am prepared to lose everything in order for us to have Brexit, it’s the most important thing in my life.

If that makes me talking nonsense so be it.

Ha ha please let you actually be a genuine Leave voter.

@peteblue @Joey66 are you on board with this gentleman?!
 
My original question was that the SNP was happy to leave the UK in 2014 knowing that it also meant leaving the EU. But suddenly, membership of the EU became all important. What happened to affect that change in opinion.

Or has it always just been about leaving the UK at any cost?

I think its more that they recognized they'd get into the EU after a few years.

It is also telling how many Tories are happy that they promised Scots that they'd stay in the EU, and then told them they wouldn't be two years later.
 
Good point, for me the answer is yes. Perhaps you should also ask the Remainers....

Well I’m asking from the perspective of if you knew then what you know now would you have still voted the same way (noting of course Pete that you would have).

I didn’t ask remainers as clearly a loss of any description as a consequence of leaving would be too much (otherwise why vote remain).

So what price would be too much? Break up of the UK? Recession? Political turmoil?

I’m genuinely interested at what point leavers would get to a position of buyers remorse and say it wasn’t worth it.
 
As in there hasn’t been a deal agreed upon to put up as the third option. No Deal and Remain are clear options, the 3rd option of a deal isn’t clear. Guess the could put May’s deal up but that’s been pretty well beaten by this point
Yes but could another referendum not provide parliament with the necessary direction the public want to go. Rather than simply leaving it to their interpretation?
 
what binman said...the EU are gagging for UK to give up and request Art50 be revoked. With Brexit, the EU stands to lose a lot of fund management (that infamous number on Boris's red bus wasn't actually wrong per se), plus if the UK are seen to be doing well post-Brexit, then the EU is in a lot of trouble.

This is the point I made yesterday which is why I could see the sense in having No Deal as an option to take to the table. Nobody wants it. The UK or the EU.

But obviously there's massive risks with it. I don't want it to happen, but I do see how taking that off the table at this stage (it should have been done right away) could weaken it even further.

I just don't think the EU let the UK revoke without some repercussions. Whether that's inital extra funding into the pot or whatever.

But thanks for pointing out - and I know you're more knowledgable on this than me - that the EU are very much wanting money from us and not the idylic entity that some (not on here) paint it out to be.
 
I agree.

But we also had remainers (MPs) crying and screaming, and remainers and leavers in the general public split down the middle.

Wouldn't it have at least made sense for the MPs to work together for the past three years.

I'm not blaming either side less than the other here.
A cross party solution would seem to be the only workable way out of this mess ... it won’t happen though as the divisions have now reached tribal levels that will never reach common ground
 
No my friend. I offered to stay off it. If you want I will post again, just say the word......
You were advised to stay off it because your bigotry was upsetting everybody. You agreed to do so and I actually commended you for your decision.
I wouldn't advise you to comply with what I want you to do. Think of mixing sex with motion, my friend.
 
Well I’m asking from the perspective of if you knew then what you know now would you have still voted the same way (noting of course Pete that you would have).

I didn’t ask remainers as clearly a loss of any description as a consequence of leaving would be too much (otherwise why vote remain).

So what price would be too much? Break up of the UK? Recession? Political turmoil?

I’m genuinely interested at what point leavers would get to a position of buyers remorse and say it wasn’t worth it.

I don’t believe any of theses things will happen. If we leave with no deal, we will continue as before, but be out of the EU.....
 
Looking now like Corbyn has been corralled into making sure 31st October has come and gone before agreeing to an election.

That would see Johnson in a very poor place with his promise to the British people to get the job done by then.

The LP would then presumably fight Brexit on a Remain platform.
 
A cross party solution would seem to be the only workable way out of this mess ... it won’t happen though as the divisions have now reached tribal levels that will never reach common ground

They should have happened three years ago. None of them tried. Arrogance of the Tory party and the, I dunno, principles of Corbyn's labour (even though their position on Brexit has always been muddied, not least because the majority of their voters voted out, as much as people with blue ticks on Twitter can't grasp that).

I think Corbyn in 2017 would have done a better job. That's why I voted for him. I don't trust him like I did then anymore, though.
 
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