What excuses are you preparing for when he presents May's deal back to Parliament as if it's an entirely new agreement?
And what about the pets?
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And what about the pets?
The binman chronicles
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It is missing the nuances of this situation. He wanted to be PM, up to a few days before the referendum was announced he was looking like a supporter for remain. But he saw the opening to make himself more relevant so pitched up to the leave camp. What he doesn't want to do now is upset half of the electorate when he has a very small majority anyhow. If he did go for a No Deal then he would likely be booted out next election, as even if it's moderately successful there still we be some pain and teething problems.
So if he plays I'm going to leave with no deal, he can get parliament to block it. Now he is not on the hit list of all the leavers as what could he do more, he wanted to leave with a no deal, so they can turn on Corbyn/Liberal/SNP instead. He will still be onside with tory eurosceptics because again what could he do more, so he unifies the party behind him. The Tory voter remainers will then not have to vote for someone else in protest and all that means is he has the best chance of winning a majority that will keep him in power.
Charlie Sweet
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Well, these two wanted a second referendum, but they 'won' so they don the hypocrisy coat.
Nigel Farage: Narrow Remain win may lead to second referendum
There could be unstoppable demand for a second EU referendum if Remain wins by only a narrow margin on 23 June, says UKIP leader Nigel Farage.www.bbc.co.uk
@peteblue comment on this? Farage actually quotes a 52:48 vote as "unfinished business"....
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Given that parliament has been prorogued in order to shorten the timescale the MP's have to debate brexit before the deadline, is there anything stopping the EU just offering an extension of the October deadline for another few months to give their remain supporting members of parliament time to re-group ?
If they did would Johnson be obligated to accept so as to keep some of the peace ?
If they did would Johnson be obligated to accept so as to keep some of the peace ?
Charlie Sweet
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I think the issue is UK law quoting Halloween as a leaving date.
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
I believe both sides need to agree to a date. If the EU can unilaterally move the date, which we certainly cannot do without their agreement, then we should get out of this arrangement as quickly as possible.....this is just an possible attempt at pointing the blame at the U.K....
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
I sort of like Farage, but he can be a bit of pillock on occasions. He certainly threw in the towel far too early and easily in respect of a second vote......
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Hence the question, he has shifted the deal/no deal timescale to put pressure on the EU (I guess) - by the EU offering an extension say until the end of the year they are putting the timescale onus back on him (and the longer this goes on who knows what will happen, dunno I just have the feeling the quicker things move the more chance of no deal, the longer things drag on the more chance of referendum v2 - revoke A50 - whatever)
sbbefc
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I was thinking something similar earlier today. He's basically suspended parliament so it appears like hes pushing for a no deal but he knows full well that the "anti no deal" alliance have just enough time to block it. Win win from his perspective. I just hope the electorate in October see through his games. I doubt it though.
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
I think the difference is that Boris has said we are leaving, the EU have never believed we would, I don’t believe for one second that the EU are prepared for no deal, I do however believe that we will be ready, so the EU may actually need a delay.......
dead_soft
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How are you so pigheadedly ignorant on this? We knew what it would entail the next day.We knew it would entail being part of the EU and voting on matters that effect it. There was only one remain option. Any further changes would be involving us, a country that would have voted remain, it’s boggling you can’t see it. Or rather you can but you try to confuse the matter.
On Brexit there were many, and very few were actually put forward, so no one knew what it actually entailed.
dead_soft
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What are we ready for? How are we ready but they aren't?
random
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If you get the chance to read this Brexit, No Exit it shows the total ineptitude of Teresa May when it came to the negotiations, if I was part of the EU negotiating team I wouldn't believe the UK would be leaving at all.
(some bits of his predictions are way off but apart from that its a good read)
Emlynsqueakyvoice
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So we can disregard his opinions on Brexit if we disregard this statement? Given that his mate Johnson is an inveterate liar, and his Cabinet are basically poodles (prorogation opponents become supporters, including Johnson), are you seriously asking us to follow/believe these idiots? Does anybody in this servile, humiliated government actually think about what's going on around them in this chaos? No shame, no principals, no clue.
Pathetic......
random
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Absolutely they do, its what's going on around the rest of the peasants they don't think about
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