Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Jebus_lives]

I think the difference is that Boris has said we are leaving, the EU have never believed we would, I don’t believe for one second that the EU are prepared for no deal, I do however believe that we will be ready, so the EU may actually need a delay.......

The EU preparations for No Deal have been ongoing for 3 years, the UK started preparing for No Deal in January.

 

[peteblue]

How are you so pigheadedly ignorant on this? We knew what it would entail the next day.We knew it would entail being part of the EU and voting on matters that effect it. There was only one remain option. Any further changes would be involving us, a country that would have voted remain, it’s boggling you can’t see it. Or rather you can but you try to confuse the matter.

On Brexit there were many, and very few were actually put forward, so no one knew what it actually entailed.

What is boggling and pig ignorant, sorry for the language I don’t know where I picked it up from, is that you cannot tell me what the EU would look like in 5 years. Yet were willing to bet your future on remaining....

 

[peteblue]

The EU preparations for No Deal have been ongoing for 3 years, the UK started preparing for No Deal in January.

I’m glad you believe that.......

 

[Emlynsqueakyvoice]

Absolutely they do, its what's going on around the rest of the peasants they don't think about

Mate, they are servile, undermined, humiliated puppets. All in servitude to Cummings. Such a shame to see the cradle of democracy become the coffin of democracy. Clueless, gutless, hopeless Tory chinless wonders. Personal interests rather than national interests. Joke of a party/government. This is what we are now. The laughing stock of the world, despite what the Little Englanders say. I hope you are pleased with yourself?

 

[Jebus_lives]

I’m glad you believe that.......

We didn't need to prepare for No Deal remember...were going to get a great deal!

Remind me when the UK no deal preparedness notices were issued? When did it appoint it's NHS strategic lead for No Deal and advertise for No Deal secondments? When did tendering for No Deal supply disruption occurs?

Hint: it's January 2019...

 

[Xizor]

I don’t believe for one second that the EU are prepared for no deal, I do however believe that we will be ready, so the EU may actually need a delay.......

At the end of the day Pete, all you have is belief, isn't it? There's no room for a considered analysis of the facts.

 

[random]

Mate, they are servile, undermined, humiliated puppets. All in servitude to Cummings. Such a shame to see the cradle of democracy become the coffin of democracy. Clueless, gutless, hopeless Tory chinless wonders. Personal interests rather than national interests. Joke of a party/government. This is what we are now. The laughing stock of the world, despite what the Little Englanders say. I hope you are pleased with yourself?

please explain. thanks

 

[peteblue]

We didn't need to prepare for No Deal remember...were going to get a great deal!

And you believe that the EU have been preparing for no deal for 3 years, so what does that say about them ?......

 

[peteblue]

At the end of the day Pete, all you have is belief, isn't it?

That’s all any of us have. You cannot prove that anything within the Eu will actually happen.....or can you....

 

[Jebus_lives]

And you believe that the EU have been preparing for no deal for 3 years, so what does that say about them ?......

They have been preparing for No Deal.

 

[Kurt.]

That’s all any of us have. You cannot prove that anything within the Eu will actually happen.....or can you....

Well probably yes mate ... as it’s already happening and we will be heavily included in anything moving forward ...

Obvs nobody can predict 5 years ahead but I’d sooner be part of the decision makers than on the periphery and having to react to changes without a say.

 

[Emlynsqueakyvoice]

please explain. thanks

Sound. You voted for people who changed sides in the run up to to the referendum. You voted in he GE for people who changed colours to advance their political ambitions. You voted the same way as people who transferred assets from this country to EU countries to protect their investment interests. The people who voted for this chaos are laughed at around the world. Prime Minister Cummings is in situ now. I hope that you and your co Leavers are happy about this outcome? I hope my explanation is not too complicated for you?

 

[dead_soft]

What is boggling and pig ignorant, sorry for the language I don’t know where I picked it up from, is that you cannot tell me what the EU would look like in 5 years. Yet were willing to bet your future on remaining....

We could reasonably imagine it would look roughly the same. We could also reasonably agree that we get to shape what it looks like (you might say differently but that'd be untrue). We could also, if we felt the EU was now such a different beast, leave the EU.
Whereas, there was no set out plan of what Brexit would mean AT ALL. As in, people did not know what the situation would be the literal next day after Brexit. You cannot compare these two things and I would love you to explain how they are the same.

 

[Jebus_lives]

What is boggling and pig ignorant, sorry for the language I don’t know where I picked it up from, is that you cannot tell me what the EU would look like in 5 years. Yet were willing to bet your future on remaining....

Here are the draft strategic objectives for the next 5 years. They're issued at the beginning of a new Commission term.

https://www.euractiv.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2019/06/Draft-EU-Strategic-Agenda.pdf

You really should do some reading.

 

[dead_soft]

That’s all any of us have. You cannot prove that anything within the Eu will actually happen.....or can you....

If you admit that all you have is a belief system, it's pretty worrying.