Current Affairs EU In or Out

[roydo]

And in the report you mention that I'm threatening to shoot you. Ffs I despair. Maybe we really are getting the politicians we deserve.

I had to check that ffs! You will see my considered response, as per.

 

[Kurt.]

You could argue Black was White, but who cares.......

Ok mate

 

[orchard]

And in the report you mention that I'm threatening to shoot you. Ffs I despair. Maybe we really are getting the politicians we deserve.

This is the most shocking part of the whole fiasco. Horrible.
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[orchard]

I had to check that ffs! You will see my considered response, as per.

Bye Bruce x

 

[Ruairi77]

reported
Where do I mention Trump?

you didn't but the blind devotion to a person/cause despite all the warning signs is what Bruce was drawing a comparison to.
He's right.

 

[random]

Maybe we really are getting the politicians we deserve.

not a new concept

Joseph de Maistre 1753-1821

(not forgotten to get back to you later with all the UK punishment quotes Bruce)

 

[peteblue]

The big problem he has mate, and I'm trying to be as objective as possible and put myself in their shoes, is day 1 after a no Deal what do they do? They have to go back to the EU to try and negotiate a deal. Except we will be in a more difficult position pretty quickly.

There's no doubt that the EU will also be damaged, but comparatively to a much lesser degree to Britain. So we end up having to do the same thing again, but from a position of greater weakness.

There may well be a very cunning plan in all of this, like let the situation become awful then accept any deal thrown at us? Maybe the calculation from ToryHQ is we have to suffer a bit before people can accept a compromise? I'm not sure. A risky plan but some logic behind it.

The idea posited though, by sections of the Leave camp, that we can leave and everything will be glorious is extremely naive. If thats the thinking they are in for a rude awakening.

You want my view on it? It's an exercise in bluff. As I've said throughout Johnson will take any concession the EU. I think the Tories will unite behind him on this, to stop Corbyn being elected. He is trying to show the EU he is serious about No Deal, and that it cannot be taken off the table without his say so.

The one elephant in the room with this is Cummings. A very bright man, but a complete maverick who looks at the world in a completely unusual way. I have the humility to accept he may well have seen a path to success that I just don't see via no deal. Johnson won't have done, and Cummings privately will likely think the bloke is a bit of a buffoon, but Cummings is a maverick.

When we have to negotiate a deal with the EU, we will do so knowing the exact content detail of all other trade deals agreed or currently in discussion with the EU. We will know our strengths and weaknesses in comparison to the likes of Canada and Japan and will know what can be offered, even before we add in the fact that we will be the EU’s largest trading partner. I’m not particularly worried about negotiating a deal....

 

[Bruce Wayne]

not a new concept

Joseph de Maistre 1753-1821

(not forgotten to get back to you later with all the UK punishment quotes Bruce)

I'm coming round to the idea that we deserve to be punished tbh.

 

[orchard]

not a new concept

Joseph de Maistre 1753-1821

(not forgotten to get back to you later with all the UK punishment quotes Bruce)

Don't bother mate, he's been sacked for trying to shoot @Joey66 in Times Square

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Bye Bruce x

It'd be a mercy banning.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

On the plus side, TXBill has agreed to step back in as my replacement.

 

[Kurt.]

reported
Where do I mention Trump?

This is why people are urging you to actually read and digest what people are saying joe.

 

[roydo]

It'd be a mercy banning.

It is with out doubt, the greatest Reported Post reason ever.

 

[Charlie Sweet]

The Galileo example is a clear demonstration of the spiteful nature of the EU. The more you see and hear of these people the more I wish to have no part of it. The EU can do their worst as far as I’m concerned, we shall enjoy the prosperity gained through internally redeveloping all of the toys they wish to take away

1. The EU have been consistent throughout. It's an organisation founded on some key principles. You're either in our out. Cake and cherry analogy.

2. It's very good of you to wish the worst on the UK economy. I imagine millions on the bread line disagree.

Johnno's Queen speech is taking up just four more days extra than the party conferences will take all this storm over 4 days ........Even Kevin Maguire deputy editor of the Daily Mirror agreed that was the case in last nights what the paper says last night ......
Barry Gardener Labour trade minister on LBC is promoting Civil unrest to be taken over this issue of a queens speech..............
Be glad when its all over roll on a GE.......

Parliament was set to stay on through the conference season this year Joey. Johnson has taken all that away. Plus the timing of the Queens Speech. It's a way more than 4 days lost.

 

[Ruairi77]

When we have to negotiate a deal with the EU, we will do so knowing the exact content detail of all other trade deals agreed or currently in discussion with the EU. We will know our strengths and weaknesses in comparison to the likes of Canada and Japan and will know what can be offered, even before we add in the fact that we will be the EU’s largest trading partner. I’m not particularly worried about negotiating a deal....

The pigs ear you've made of the withdrawal agreement is going to put every country/trading block on edge when trying to negotiate a trade deal with you. All it takes to unravel a deal is some pork barrel politics from a fringe party which happens to hold the balance of power in Westminster.
The longer this messing goes on, the weaker your hand will be.