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Charlie Sweet
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Exactly.
I compare this to Nigel, a member of a golf club wanting to leave his annual membership (with it's fixed annual cost and responsibilities) and instead join a pay as you play scheme that offers him the chance to play at any club he wants. Sounds great - independence and freedom from all those horrible club committees and rule books.
First off Nigel's existing club cannot offer him a leaving deal that offers him a cheaper round of golf and neither will the existing members want to let him off the hook for costs he signed up to whilst a member such as putting a new roof on the clubhouse.
The analogy works really well I think. Nigel also finds other clubs arent quite as willing to offer him cheap deals to play at their course as he doesn't have the negotiating power he thought he did and notices the small print in their promotional offers saying their headline visitor price is based on large groups.
Still, in the long term, once he has paid off what he now owes his old club, he reckons he will save his annual £500 membership fee. That is until his wife points out he still wants to play golf every week and at £25 a game he's actually going to be worse off.
But it was never about money Nigel tells his wife. He's now an independent British golfer and is lord of his manor beholden to nobody. No more rules and regulations.
Next day the mail arrives and it's his forms for his pay and play scheme. Actually quite a lot of small print he hadn't seen before and a lot of it he doesn't really understand.
And each time he rocks up to a new club to play he finds he has to sign up to their visitor rulebook as well. But at least it's in his own name so all worth it in the end.
random
Player Valuation: £15m
yeah urm not really sure what you mean, I was asked a question re punitive costs and answered it, you seem to have gone off on some sort of tanget. If you were adding something constructive to the discussion please rephrase
zzr45
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I literally have no idea what you are on about. Someone making an assumption that whatever nurses are European and being wrong about it isn't Remainer Disinformation. (Again, wasn't my post, I just chipped in to laugh at your histrionics.)
Disinformation would be saying that the Leavers are getting ready to lynch foreign nurses on November 1st.
If you'd like me to repeat this post with sock puppets for easier understanding, please do say.
It reduces the longer we stay in towards the end of the budget date.
The EU's budget for 2019 was €165bn, and the payment agreed was designed to cover the three years of our departure, plus ongoing commitments for things like pensions of UK EU employees. With regards to payments, each EU country pays the same proportion of its GDP to the EU budget, and of course the UK gets a rebate on that, which actually means we pay less than the other 27 member states. Our relative contribution therefore is wholly dependent upon the size of the UK economy. If the economy grows, then our contribution grows, just as if your personal income grows then your tax payments grow.
London is perhaps a unique environment though, especially in terms of demographics. My wife's team in the NHS is perhaps 80% Afro-Caribbean, with a couple of EU nationals, and 1 Brit. In our part of London, the migration is predominantly from Africa and Latin America, but if you go a few miles south to Streatham then the Polish community is much bigger, so the situation might be different again.
Barnfred 55
Player Valuation: £80m
Now you've got it.
I backed up my post with evidence that explains the reality of the situation. I can post links to the UK government advice and the EU guidance in the event of No Deal if it helps, along with the technical guidance that the NHS relies on.
Feel free to explain what about my post is incorrect.
random
Player Valuation: £15m
so you are stating that the 39 Billion is 100% what we owe and not one Euro more and in no way anything has been added on ?
well it seems more than perfectly reasonable doesn’t it ? my bad obviously
could you please elaborate on the punishment quotes from members of the EU if its not a financial punishment ?
well it seems more than perfectly reasonable doesn’t it ? my bad obviously
could you please elaborate on the punishment quotes from members of the EU if its not a financial punishment ?
Dont think its just london Bruce , i had a day op, in the royal liverpool last year , the three staff doing it were from Spain,Portugal,Greece ,all great at there job,and a credid to the nhs and themselves.
How is the UK being punished?
If we owe anthing we should pay no problem with that,but how about things we have paid into like some of the space projects we are now excluded from despite putting in hundred of million pounds into , and used british expertese and man hours to procress to now be told sorry your not in the club so do one.
Does fairness only go one way?
Good to know.
From memory, when the government was initially intending to charge EU Nationals £65 to apply, the estimated cost to trusts across the North West was running into the millions.
They haven't ejected us, we decided to leave.
We continue to pay until we leave and for those commitments we have agreed.
But you can't seriously expect to benefit from parts of a 'club' you no longer pay your membership too.
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