Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%
  • Total voters
    1,013
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What I can't understand is Parliament isn't a building or single entity, it's a collection of individuals, who could just easily rent space for the days that Parliament is prorogued and debate the issues there. That's what I would do.
 
JEBUS_LIVES said:
What I can't understand is Parliament isn't a building or single entity, it's a collection of individuals, who could just easily rent space for the days that Parliament is prorogued and debate the issues there. That's what I would do.
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Dont know why they dont all just bin their conferences off. Nothing of substance happens there anyrate.
 
Charlie Sweet said:
They voted through A50 yes. But then what did you want them all to do?!
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Leave with a deal or do a deal if you take no deal off the table you are never going to get a deal -
In the workplace if I has a manager came in with an employee who had a dispute with me, and disciplinary, and his Union Senior Officer told them he would not take my firm to an industrial tribunal, and he missed the timeframe - my firm would lick their lips, and clap their hands, and discipline the employee asap..... no comeback other than a long maybe 5-7 years civil action in the courts , and I post with experience .....
you need every negotiating power you can muster......to get a deal .....
Imagine Len Mccluskey with Theresa May he would have crushed her in something like this....
oh we won't strike we wont picket do what you want I will just roll over and play dead.... hence she got the push.......
 
roydo said:
Dont know why they dont all just bin their conferences off. Nothing of substance happens there anyrate.
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A few parties had started to arrange this, but bj's move today doesn't permit enough parliamentary time to cancel conference apparently...
 
Alan Whittle said:
Which, tbf, would be mortally wounded if he didn't achieve Brexit.
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My reading is it's a bluff manoeuvre. He needs to get the EU to blink even a tiny bit, and then convince his party to accept the deal. Forget the BXP the Liberal Democrats will cause enormous damage to them if they push ahead with No Deal (even in a best case scenario) and make it almost impossible for him to win irrespective of the popular vote.

People at the heart of their government know this. To me it's a manoeuvre to show they are serious to the EU. If he can get anything out of the EU (and he won't get much) I think he will try to sell it back to people.

I have to say, it's an enormous risk. The big weakness for Labour is it's divided and the majority of the top of the party hate the leader. The policies and ideas are roundly quite popular and hence why they will outperform polls and win support through a campaign. However the are divided. This shoves them closer together.
 
catcherintherye said:
He needs to get the EU to blink even a tiny bit, and then convince his party to accept the deal.
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Who knows what has been said in the private meetings he has had with the other EU countries leaders. Some more underhanded shenanigans and back-door deals going on no doubt.
 
catcherintherye said:
My reading is it's a bluff manoeuvre. He needs to get the EU to blink even a tiny bit, and then convince his party to accept the deal. Forget the BXP the Liberal Democrats will cause enormous damage to them if they push ahead with No Deal (even in a best case scenario) and make it almost impossible for him to win irrespective of the popular vote.

People at the heart of their government know this. To me it's a manoeuvre to show they are serious to the EU. If he can get anything out of the EU (and he won't get much) I think he will try to sell it back to people.

I have to say, it's an enormous risk. The big weakness for Labour is it's divided and the majority of the top of the party hate the leader. The policies and ideas are roundly quite popular and hence why they will outperform polls and win support through a campaign. However the are divided. This shoves them closer together.
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Good points but I don't think the EU will blink (even if that blonde knob thinks otherwise). Why would they? We have far far more to lose then them.
 
Khalekan said:
Please explain that bit.

The UK and the EU agreed a deal in December 2017 which would have seen the Backstop applied to the only region where it was anyway relevant, desirable and indeed very necessary.....Northern Ireland.
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That way Great Britain would have sailed off toward the sunlit uplands on March 31st, free from customs union, single market et al.

That Backstop is supported by a large majority of people in NI as it gives that province the right to stay in both the UK and the EU and it honours the terms of Good Friday Agreement, an international treaty agreed between the British and Irish governments and underpinned by both the European Union and the United States of America.

But it was scuppered because the Tory Party is way more concerned with keeping itself in power that it is about Brexit or owt else and as it relies on the poisonous DUP to stay in power, you are still in the European Union.

So for you to suggest that Brussels is “working together “ with anyone to “keep us in the EU” is baseless and to apply your own logic, anyone who cannot be bothered acquainting him or her self with such basic facts before posting such uninformed wham should perhaps be the ones to “lose the right to vote”.
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The EU, and TM, knew it would never get agreed by Parliament.
 
TyphooToffee said:
I live in an old folks home as it happens. I also voted to join a common market, not what has become
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Just for interest the figures from health and social care sector suggest around 100,000 social care staff are EU Nationals and a significant proportion of domiciliary care providers (around 80%) are small/medium family owned businesses who are very susceptible to fluctuations in the £.
 
JEBUS_LIVES said:
Just for interest the figures from health and social care sector suggest around 100,000 social care staff are EU Nationals and a significant proportion of domiciliary care providers (around 80%) are small/medium family owned businesses who are very susceptible to fluctuations in the £.
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It's actually an over 60s 'Retirement Living" development. I don't need carers. My mum has them and non of them are European.
 
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