Current Affairs EU In or Out

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  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%
  • Total voters
    1,013
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peteblue said:
In the Sunday Independent, apparently an anonymous senior official close to Prime Minister Leo Varadkar’s deputy Simon Coveney said the attack (the planting of a bomb), had forced Boris Johnson to rethink his strategy towards Ireland and Brexit.

The newspaper cited the official as saying: “The Brits got a bit friendlier to us after the attempt to murder PSNI officers.”

Lovely people......
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Link please Pete.
 
JEBUS_LIVES said:
The warning signs were there.

As soon as he started equating immigration to a 'breakdown of law and order' and talking in terms of 'millions of immigrants' you knew he was itching to go full racist.

The worrying thing is the rest of the leave camp not calling him out on it, just idly watching or in some instances encouraging and defending.
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This.
 
peteblue said:
There is a lot going on. We’ve got the EU keeping their story together and we’ve got a load of distrustful anti U.K. politicians actively seeking to undermine our governments negotiations. Yet even with the best destructive aims of Corbyn, Soubry, that woman from the Lib Dem’s and the other tree hugger, Boris seems to be making headway.......
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Well, the clock is definitely running down.
 
peteblue said:
No mate....it’s what’s happening.....
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well you'd better hope it happens sharpish because there's a good chance you have about 14 months to figure out how to leave the EU, actually leave the EU and establish a trade deal with the US that doesn't mess with the WTO or GFA.
Failing that, you better hope Orange skull gets in for four more years and the GOP also take the house.
 
Alan Whittle said:
Well, the clock is definitely running down.
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A rumour Johnson will prorogue parliment is circulating imo no different than Corbyn coup to get the keys of no 10 - he and 500 MPs voted Article 50 through ....... did they not realise they were setting a law to leave the EU on the back of a referendum of a massive ballot they stated in both manifestos of the two main parties they would honour......
We have become a banana republic.....
leaving the EU with a good deal is a necessity ......
 
Bruce Wayne said:
The sad reality is that far too many are trafficked here with their passports stolen and made to work in various unmentionable situations. We spoke with a Czech girl in a homeless shelter once who had come here on a 'work scheme' to work in a pub, learn the lingo and all that. Like young people do. She had her passport stolen and when she complained she was thrown out and ended up on the streets. She felt too ashamed to call home for help. There are horrendous criminals working in this area, exploiting and abusing people who just want to better their lives.

Sadly, we have a culture at the moment where we go down on the victims like a ton of bricks, and ignore the criminals entirely. It's shameful.
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I attended a seminar on people trafficking a while back which had the uk’s top gang busters explaining to us the exact extent of the problem they are facing on a daily basis. They work closely with other governments across the world as they recognise this is a massive global problem where gangmasters are making millions of pounds. One of the simplest forms is to kidnap a Man’s wife and children and basically tell him they will be killed if he doesn’t make the treacherous journey across differing countries in horrific conditions to arrive here in the uk in the back of some container and then made to work an 18 hour day before getting bussed back to a house which is probably shared by another 20 people in the same position, all this time their passports are withheld and they get a pittance to live on. That’s the reality... but let’s continue to believe they only come here for the benefits
 
Joey66 said:
We have become a banana republic.....
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Well quite. The head of the executive (Johnson) wants to prevent the legislative (Parliament) sitting because he knows they won't wave through his plans and some are actively hostile to them. In a functional democracy, an executive branch that doesn't have the support of the legislative for its key policies either changes its policies or changes the legislative branch, through an election. In banana republics, as you say, the executive does things like prevent the legislative sitting, or actively arrests them etc. to intimidate them into supporting the executive (or more reliably stuffs them full of supporters beforehand, but that's problematic here).

Now remind me, which side are the Leavers currently occupying in this travesty of democracy?
 
peteblue said:
There is a lot going on. We’ve got the EU keeping their story together and we’ve got a load of distrustful anti U.K. politicians actively seeking to undermine our governments negotiations. Yet even with the best destructive aims of Corbyn, Soubry, that woman from the Lib Dem’s and the other tree hugger, Boris seems to be making headway.......
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Do you not agree with parliamentary democracy after all then Pete?
 
Joey66 said:
A rumour Johnson will prorogue parliment is circulating imo no different than Corbyn coup to get the keys of no 10 - he and 500 MPs voted Article 50 through ....... did they not realise they were setting a law to leave the EU on the back of a referendum of a massive ballot they stated in both manifestos of the two main parties they would honour......
We have become a banana republic.....
leaving the EU with a good deal is a necessity ......
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So you want to give everyone more time to work to sort a good deal?
 
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