Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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I've been rolling my sleeves up practically my whole life and been continuously employed for the last 24 years, so I don't need a lesson on that thank you. Your generation had nearly 20 years of almost continual growth, giving the chance to purchase houses at low prices and reap the rewards. Anyone in their 40's now will almost certainly see 15 years of recession and stagnation to go with the 11 we have already had to take them up to retirement age.

Spot the difference?

And for what? I'm still waiting for one person to give me a tangible benefit for this. Take back control by being the weakest member in any trade talk against any decent sized country or block? Absolute folly.

That's the kicker, as we've actually had 9 years of economic growth, and many are predicting a recession is likely. The thing is, for many people, the past nine years haven't felt like a good period whatsoever, so heaven knows what a recession might feel like.
 
Dolling out home truths and advice about how easy it will be if only these young snowflakes were used to a bit of hard graft*

*Of course it wasn't hard graft when he were a lad, it were just called work.

I'd love to be proven wrong, but if you look at the areas where Britain does do very well and therefore might contribute to our global success, they nearly all want to remain in the EU. Financial services want to remain in the EU, academia wants to remain in the EU, business groups from the CBI to the IoD want to remain in the EU, the tech sector want to remain in the EU, and it's not a flimsy majority that think this way, but typically around 70% of these sectors want to remain.

Yet blokes like Methusellah not only think they know more about what these key sectors need to succeed than they do, but have the quite frankly staggering lack of self-awareness to then blame those sectors for not making Brexit a success for them.
 
That's the kicker, as we've actually had 9 years of economic growth, and many are predicting a recession is likely. The thing is, for many people, the past nine years haven't felt like a good period whatsoever, so heaven knows what a recession might feel like.

Quite, because this is just inching us back to where we were before the crash you are right it doesn't feel that way.
 
Dolling out home truths and advice about how easy it will be if only these young snowflakes were used to a bit of hard graft*

*Of course it wasn't hard graft when he were a lad, it were just called work.
Cos today’s generation have it easy with their iPhones and their .... iPhones etc. They don’t even know what it was like. We rebuilt this country lad!
 
I'd love to be proven wrong, but if you look at the areas where Britain does do very well and therefore might contribute to our global success, they nearly all want to remain in the EU. Financial services want to remain in the EU, academia wants to remain in the EU, business groups from the CBI to the IoD want to remain in the EU, the tech sector want to remain in the EU, and it's not a flimsy majority that think this way, but typically around 70% of these sectors want to remain.

Yet blokes like Methusellah not only think they know more about what these key sectors need to succeed than they do, but have the quite frankly staggering lack of self-awareness to then blame those sectors for not making Brexit a success for them.

The world has changed and they haven’t. They’re crying out to have some relevance again
 
I've been rolling my sleeves up practically my whole life and been continuously employed for the last 24 years, so I don't need a lesson on that thank you. Your generation had nearly 20 years of almost continual growth, giving the chance to purchase houses at low prices and reap the rewards. Anyone in their 40's now will almost certainly see 15 years of recession and stagnation to go with the 11 we have already had to take them up to retirement age.

Spot the difference?

And for what? I'm still waiting for one person to give me a tangible benefit for this. Take back control by being the weakest member in any trade talk against any decent sized country or block? Absolute folly.

Just one example. I had a mortgage that was a millstone round my neck. I opened my newspaper one morning to read that interest rates were 15%. What's your interest rate?
 
That's precisely my point. You're suggesting that every MP was democratically elected to deliver Brexit. They weren't.

The election was not fought entirely on a platform for Brexit. The referendum was, but the referendum doesn't determine who our elected Representatives are.

Furthermore, if I were elected to represent the best interests of my constituents and I was told 'you have to implement a fraudulent referendum' I wouldn't.

There's the RS Supporter mentality again - 'fraudulent referendum'. We were cheated out of winning the league, whine, whine.
 
No one said it was going to be easy. Have you heard the phrase 'roll your sleeves up'? Second nature to the 60+ generation, we've been doing it all our lives. Try it.
Roll your sleeves up.

I work a full time job. I also work about another 15-20 hours a week in another role, so can work 6/7 days a week. My needs (so rent, food, bills, etc.) take up about 65% of my wage.

It’s all been so simple, all I need to do is work more.
 
Just one example. I had a mortgage that was a millstone round my neck. I opened my newspaper one morning to read that interest rates were 15%. What's your interest rate?

Are we talking about when it jumped to 15% for 1 day in the early 90's? Although granted your bank/building society could gave had you on a similar but smaller rate as it bounced around during that period.
 
I've been rolling my sleeves up practically my whole life and been continuously employed for the last 24 years, so I don't need a lesson on that thank you. Your generation had nearly 20 years of almost continual growth, giving the chance to purchase houses at low prices and reap the rewards. Anyone in their 40's now will almost certainly see 15 years of recession and stagnation to go with the 11 we have already had to take them up to retirement age.

Spot the difference?

And for what? I'm still waiting for one person to give me a tangible benefit for this. Take back control by being the weakest member in any trade talk against any decent sized country or block? Absolute folly.
Wasting your time mate, the scorched earth generation has used up all their resources and pulled the ladder up behind them. I consider myself very lucky that the majority of my own relatives of that era are utterly embarrassed about their peers
 
Wasting your time mate, the scorched earth generation has used up all their resources and pulled the ladder up behind them. I consider myself very lucky that the majority of my own relatives of that era are utterly embarrassed about their peers

Yes lucky indeed mate, my parents are both in the former group. :(

But least gives me chance to see the opposition arguments up close. :oops:
 
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