Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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Would have been better if the people who wanted this had these solutions before putting it to a referendum and voting it in imo.
But as it is becoming more and more obvious there is no solution. Johnson is being boxed in on all sides and it is (always has been) mission impossible.

It's about time they faced the facts and came out with a statement -
"Sorry folks, we've tried all ways but we cannot find a solution that all will accept. It's mission impossible and thus we are revoking article 50. Brexit is off."

Some will say that there will be civil unrest so what, the politicised police will bash them into order and we can all get on with lives and the government (whoever it may be ) can revert to its job of governing the country.
 
But as it is becoming more and more obvious there is no solution. Johnson is being boxed in on all sides and it is (always has been) mission impossible.

It's about time they faced the facts and came out with a statement -
"Sorry folks, we've tried all ways but we cannot find a solution that all will accept. It's mission impossible and thus we are revoking article 50. Brexit is off."

Some will say that there will be civil unrest so what, the politicised police will bash them into order and we can all get on with lives and the government (whoever it may be ) can revert to its job of governing the country.

I would say don't even cancel article 50 but postpone until an event occurs that might give the country half a chance to be able to go through with the act (Subject to a further referendum). This might help calm the situation by saying it isn't actually scrapping brexit.

So if one of the following happens it can be revisited:
  • NI leaving the UK
  • Unrest that leads to a hard border on Ireland anyhow
  • Scotland leaving the UK
  • Another country successfully manages to leave the EU, keeping all the benefits and having the ability to control borders and make trade agreements on its own.
  • Break up of the EU.
 
"There will eventually be a country called London which will be a tax haven for rich Europeans, Americans and Russians, and where Eton educated pen pushers and Oxbridge bankers can squirrel that "offshore" money around amongst themselves creating "interest" and stock market boom and bust in their imaginary world. Working class manual labour plebs will only be granted entry to this Castle in the sky to do the menial tasks that they can't be bothered to do and the skilled tasks they are incapable of doing. The rest of the UK will be some sort of dystopian Mad Max style "wild west" where survival of the fittest is the only law. Neoliberalism at it's finest. Thatcher will be proud".
 
Oh I’m not being funny. I’d rather crap in my own hand and clap than spend a second in your presence son.

Now off you pop.

I'm not your son.

And if crapping in your own hand and clapping is your bag, well good for you. Says everything about you, and your level...
 
I think you’re confusing border checks on goods with immigration checks at the border
Not really. The point I was making was that even if the technology to control goods became available without the need for any border infrastructure that would leave the UK/EU land border wide open from the point of view of checks on immigration. That's hardly "taking back control of our borders" is it.

The UK can't have it both ways; it either takes back control or it doesn't. If it does, it tears up the GFA. And if it doesn't then in reality there is no border which makes it pointless leaving the EU in the first place.

The Leave campaign didn't consider any of this before the referendum and sold a dummy instead.
 
"There will eventually be a country called London which will be a tax haven for rich Europeans, Americans and Russians, and where Eton educated pen pushers and Oxbridge bankers can squirrel that "offshore" money around amongst themselves creating "interest" and stock market boom and bust in their imaginary world. Working class manual labour plebs will only be granted entry to this Castle in the sky to do the menial tasks that they can't be bothered to do and the skilled tasks they are incapable of doing. The rest of the UK will be some sort of dystopian Mad Max style "wild west" where survival of the fittest is the only law. Neoliberalism at it's finest. Thatcher will be proud".


I have been thinking along those lines for some time.

Not just about London.

At some time in the future I see the idea of the City State, which was how society was ordered for most of mankind’s history, becoming a thing again.
 
I'm not your son.

And if crapping in your own hand and clapping is your bag, well good for you. Says everything about you, and your level...
Your level is far below that son.

I thought you were some super chilled mega funny guy. Sounds like you’re getting a little riled. How’s the blood pressure?
 
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