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There will be a general election before a 'no deal'.
No chance.
92 days to 31st Oct, iirc, 42 days notice required
GEs are held on Thursdays
31st Oct is a Thursday
So back up 7 days to 24th Oct
Add on your 42 = Friday 13th Sept. To announce it.
Not happening, He's got too much to do getting planning sorted for a no deal brexit...whilst hoping The EU blink.
 

Government set to buy slaughtered livestock at fixed price in event of No Deal.
 

Government set to buy slaughtered livestock at fixed price in event of No Deal.

Good.....
 
Indicative of the level of insight and planning that has gone into the PM's strategy post-Brexit, on 30th July he promises Welsh farmers:

"We will make sure that they have the support that they need, if there are markets that are going to be tricky that we help them to find new markets, we have interventions that aim to support them and their incomes".

A bit late in the day .....
 
Indicative of the level of insight and planning that has gone into the PM's strategy post-Brexit, on 30th July he promises Welsh farmers:

"We will make sure that they have the support that they need, if there are markets that are going to be tricky that we help them to find new markets, we have interventions that aim to support them and their incomes".

A bit late in the day .....

At least it is a positive move, which is more than could be said for the situation before Boris arrived......
 

Government set to buy slaughtered livestock at fixed price in event of No Deal.

A sticking plaster for some of the current supply. What happens afterwards? Incentives to cease farming or is the UK Government going to become British farming's biggest customer??

The value of British food and drink exports to the EU is about St£ 13 Billion per annum, so that would mean buying up 26 times the value of this suggested aid every year??
 
A sticking plaster for some of the current supply. What happens afterwards? Incentives to cease farming or is the UK Government going to become British farming's biggest customer??

The value of British food and drink exports to the EU is about St£ 13 Billion per annum, so that would mean buying up 26 times the value of this suggested aid every year??

You are assuming that all trade with the EU will cease.......
 
No chance.
92 days to 31st Oct, iirc, 42 days notice required
GEs are held on Thursdays
31st Oct is a Thursday
So back up 7 days to 24th Oct
Add on your 42 = Friday 13th Sept. To announce it.
Not happening, He's got too much to do getting planning sorted for a no deal brexit...whilst hoping The EU blink.

They'll extend the deadline before crashing out.
 
You are assuming that all trade with the EU will cease.......


No I am not. Rather I am highlighting that HMG buying up produce is no answer in the medium to long term, and illustrates the complete lack of thought that has gone into this at Government level.

What happens next??

By the way, it is probably little known but Ireland takes 34% of UK beef exports and is the main market in the EU. That is likely to collapse post a no deal Brexit, never mind what happens to exports to the rest of the EU.
 
They'll extend the deadline before crashing out.
Won't have to, Bozzer will bluff them in the trump/ mel gibson lethal weapon manner... don't mess with me, I'm a nut job, you know I'll do it.
They'll blink, it may only be the barest flicker of a concession, but it will be enough for bozzer into saying ok honour satisfied...where do I sign.

Then an Election in April.
 
No I am not. Rather I am highlighting that HMG buying up produce is no answer in the medium to long term, and illustrates the complete lack of thought that has gone into this at Government level.

What happens next??

By the way, it is probably little known but Ireland takes 34% of UK beef exports and is the main market in the EU. That is likely to collapse post a no deal Brexit, never mind what happens to exports to the rest of the EU.

Boris is probably trying to outdo the sugar mountains or whatever it was that were rightly used to highlight the absurdity of the CAP. At a time when so many still lack for food though it's frankly ridiculous.
 
Boris is probably trying to outdo the sugar mountains or whatever it was that were rightly used to highlight the absurdity of the CAP. At a time when so many still lack for food though it's frankly ridiculous.


The sugar/beef mountains and milk/wine lakes (known as intervention) were a stop-gap answer to over-production which occurred because CAP payments were directly linked to production..

The payments under CAP were decoupled from production in 2003, and payments were instead linked to the area of agricultural land and a complex system of entitlements that each farmer earned. This more or less put an end to over-production in the EU and also encouraged the continuance of farming rather than land abandonment in vulnerable areas.

That is why I asked the question in another post - what happens next for UK food and drink if there are no viable markets?

HMG and the UK taxpayer cannot keep buying up this produce, and the ST£ 500m proposal is a very tiny sticking plaster over a very large wound that is going to continue to widen.
 
Brexit is truly incredible, that people’s utter devotion to it’s ideology can get them arguing that the pound tanking is a good thing.

I mean, sure, it will be good for some people (see below), but the pound in your pocket being worth less and less is not a good thing for the average punter / voter.

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