Current Affairs EU In or Out

[sbbefc]

Isn't that what Johnson is counting on? He's going to do a May and go for an election with no deal as the centrepoint, and if he wins it then he'll have the mandate he wants. He's banking on the remain vote being split, and a combination of no deal pulling in all the Brexit Party voters and dislike of Corbyn pulling in all the centrist Tory voters to do the trick for him.

But can they squeeze it in before 31st of Oct? It would be a very risky move on his part. The tories would lose seats in Wales as it looks like there's no appetite for a no deal there. Plaid and the lib dems already have a pact in place. Same goes for the Tory seats in Scotland. I can only a see a rainbow coalition of sorts.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

No, it won't

Go on...

 

[Bruce Wayne]

But can they squeeze it in before 31st of Oct? It would be a very risky move on his part. The tories would lose seats in Wales as it looks like there's no appetite for a no deal there. Plaid and the lib dems already have a pact in place. Same goes for the Tory seats in Scotland. I can only a see a rainbow coalition of sorts.

I suppose the thing is, what can the EU do? Get tired and say "sod it, bugger off and annoy someone else with your incompetence...", in which case the Brexiters get what they want, or grant another extension?

 

[Bruce Wayne]

And if we the electorate go to polls not working that ruse out more fool them, in the cold light of day democracy has spoken. I know who i'm voting, its a lent vote to oust the sitting Tory...

Not a great situation for a large chunk of the electorate though is it? Hold your nose and vote for the lesser of two evils.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Not a great situation for a large chunk of the electorate though is it? Hold your nose and vote for the lesser of two evils.

Conservative or LibDems, I'll hold my nose and vote LibDems.

Otherwise it's a vote for Conservatives in my constituency. Indeed if LibDems get in the Conservatives will be out of government...

Of course caveats, if it's clear they would go in coalition with Conservatives, it's a no go.

However, the tanking of the pound in recent days, has been politically good news for opposition to Johnson and his sect. The increase of many essential food stuffs will hit just as an election is likely...

 

[peteblue]

There will be a general election before a 'no deal'.

Very possibly....

 

[spectateur]

There will be a general election before a 'no deal'.

But what would we voting for? Traditional party lines and policies or candidates who are for or against brexit? If it's the latter then why not another referendum?
Of course, the leavers would lose a referendum but the undemocratic FPTP system for a general election would favour the cons.
To beat Johnson would need some very widespread tactical voting.

 

[peteblue]

Conservative or LibDems, I'll hold my nose and vote LibDems.

Otherwise it's a vote for Conservatives in my constituency. Indeed if LibDems get in the Conservatives will be out of government...

Of course caveats, if it's clear they would go in coalition with Conservatives, it's a no go.

However, the tanking of the pound in recent days, has been politically good news for opposition to Johnson and his sect. The increase of many essential food stuffs will hit just as an election is likely...

You forget however the effect upon our exporters, who will now reap the benefit, together with overseas investors who will put even more money into the U.K......

 

[allezlesbleus]

Not a great situation for a large chunk of the electorate though is it? Hold your nose and vote for the lesser of two evils.

Sums up the choice a lot of the time!!!

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

You forget however the effect upon our exporters, who will now reap the benefit, together with overseas investors who will put even more money into the U.K......

I doubt the vast majority of electorate will reap the benefits, what is it 2069 or something when we all reap the benefits, silly billy...

 

[Khalekan]

But can they squeeze it in before 31st of Oct? It would be a very risky move on his part. The tories would lose seats in Wales as it looks like there's no appetite for a no deal there. Plaid and the lib dems already have a pact in place. Same goes for the Tory seats in Scotland. I can only a see a rainbow coalition of sorts.

And in NI I see the pro Remain SDLP gaining a seat from the DUP and one from Sinn Fein which would alter significantly the arithmetic in the event of another hung Parliament (it effectively adds three votes to the anti Brexit movement)

I also think one DUP seat is at risk from Sinn Fein which would reduce the pro Brexit hardline vote by another one.

 

[Khalekan]

You forget however the effect upon our exporters, who will now reap the benefit, together with overseas investors who will put even more money into the U.K......

Eh?

Overseas investors will not put “even more money” into the UK as the pound continues to sink.

They know it is sinking for a reason.....political instability on the industrial scale we have here now is not fertile ground for industrialists

Meanwhile the speculators on Wall Street and other money markets will continue to sell Sterling.

Until the inevitable happens.....and the BOE is forced to raise interest rates in an effort to make thise investors buy Sterling rather than sell it,

Hikes in interest rates....another thing gammon were never promised in the sunlit uplands.

And I dread to think what will happen to Sterling in the dog days of October if this Kamikaze cabinet is still hurtling toward the No Deal cliff edge.

The run on Sterling will be very, very scary.

 

[DanEFC92]

 

[Carl O'Ancelotti]

The £ collapsing against the € is shrinking Everton's transfer budget by the day as the fees for the players we are currently pursuing have to be be paid in €s.

That's it, enough is enough.

 

[spectateur]

You forget however the effect upon our exporters, who will now reap the benefit, together with overseas investors who will put even more money into the U.K......

Don't be silly, the only benefits will be to the tourism industry. Economics of a banana Republic.