Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%
  • Total voters
    1,013
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peteblue said:
And this is my point. The charts have been produced to prove some form of point, based on information we haven’t got, on a future relationship we know nothing about. So they must be used as a stick to show that we must remain......
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I don't believe for one minute that those figures have been plucked out of the air - there would have been input from various govt and independent financial think tanks, however in the end they are a forecast of what financial experts believe will come to pass in each different scenario.

We know exactly what a FTA agreement and the single market agreements with the EU would look like in the form of restrictive legislation, so they can forecast results to a certain degree there but what we don't know for sure is the full impact of a WTO exit. Overall the chart should imo be viewed as a guideline not an absolute certainty.
 
peteblue said:
And how do they remove GDP in both a single market and free trade arrangement, any actual numbers ?.....
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Believe it or not Pete, it wasn't me that produced the figures. I know you're not someone who would ask a random and completely unconnected person to explain something someone else produced, and then if they can't you discount the figures, so perhaps do some research and find out? With your connections in the Tory party, I'm sure you could get a straight answer in no time. Indeed, isn't your Centrica friend chummy with Liam Fox? Maybe ask him to ask for you.
 
Bruce Wayne said:
Believe it or not Pete, it wasn't me that produced the figures. I know you're not someone who would ask a random and completely unconnected person to explain something someone else produced, and then if they can't you discount the figures, so perhaps do some research and find out? With your connections in the Tory party, I'm sure you could get a straight answer in no time. Indeed, isn't your Centrica friend chummy with Liam Fox? Maybe ask him to ask for you.
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Just asking, for a friend.....
 
peteblue said:
As you are claiming to possess half a brain, can you explain how a single market or free trade agreement can have such a reduction on GDP when the whole of our trade with the EU only accounts for about 8-9% of GDP...thanks....
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From the graph and on a basic level...Wage growth has been stagnant and behind inflation for over a decade as prices increase especially in the north of England and the lower class.

If you voted to leave the EU feeling that will change, that it would lower the cost of living and increase wage growth then fair play. You're daft but fair play.
 
peteblue said:
Just asking, for a friend.....
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www.parliament.uk

Government Brexit analysis material published - Committees - UK Parliament

The Committee on Exiting the European Union publishes material from the documents provided by the Department for Exiting the EU.
www.parliament.uk www.parliament.uk


Read it yourself and tell your pal...

Honestly for a poster that said this:
peteblue said:
When you asked the question, you only had to read back about ten pages max. I don’t like lazy posters......
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You really are a lazy sod :p
 
JammyP said:
Do read the report at https://www.parliament.uk/documents...EU-Exit-Analysis-Cross-Whitehall-Briefing.pdf , then get back to us. No doubt you have better sources of information.
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Excellent.

So the reduction in GDP is based on a potential forecast reduction of that which would have been achieved over a 15 year period. A 15 year expected growth of 25% will be reduced by 1.6%, 4.8% or 7.7% in worst case scenario. So not even any short term reduction, just an assumption that longer term growth in the later years could be affected. Compared to the project fear chart produced just identifying the reductions in isolation.

This is 6th form guesswork added to Alistair Campbell interpretive analysis......so can we at least be honest when using these charts......
 
peteblue said:
Excellent.

So the reduction in GDP is based on a potential forecast reduction of that which would have been achieved over a 15 year period. A 15 year expected growth of 25% will be reduced by 1.6%, 4.8% or 7.7% in worst case scenario. So not even any short term reduction, just an assumption that longer term growth in the later years could be affected. Compared to the project fear chart produced just identifying the reductions in isolation.

This is 6th form guesswork added to Alistair Campbell interpretive analysis......so can we at least be honest when using these charts......
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remainers in here are very very very good at copy and pasting all the bad forecasts, theres plenty of them too, you can find just bad bits in every little bit of Brexit news it seems...
 
BigBlueNose said:
remainers in here are very very very good at copy and pasting all the bad forecasts, theres plenty of them too, you can find just bad bits in every little bit of Brexit news it seems...
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It's harder to find anything good going for the brexit crowd though, if at all.

You'd think Farage would've spent his money on some pie charts or something showing us the promise land
 
Groucho said:
Do I pretend to be an economic expert? No.
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Its why the whole referendum was such a stupid idea, the opinion poll on brexit should have been one giant pizza pie statkng i have no earthly clue if its a good idea or not, I'm firmly in that group but i will add i havent heard a single coherent argument for brexit and the people making the case are always public figures or politicians i have zero respect for
 
Walken said:
Its why the whole referendum was such a stupid idea, the opinion poll on brexit should have been one giant pizza pie statkng i have no earthly clue if its a good idea or not, I'm firmly in that group but i will add i havent heard a single coherent argument for brexit and the people making the case are always public figures or politicians i have zero respect for
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Blue passports though!!
 
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