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thing is though mate, the people who are in charge of making Brexit happen , don't really want it to happen, so they are making all these biased predictions and forecasts so people like yourselves believe that they are doing the right thing for the country, basically 'saving us' from a catastrophic Brexit.

give me a break. we will prosper , after maybe a couple of harder years.

Where have these 'biased predictions' from the May government come from? Can you link us up? There have been numerous predictions from other bodies, whether academics, the CBI, the Bank of England etc., but in your own words, they are not in charge of the people the country democratically chose as the will of the people to run this show.
 
Where have these 'biased predictions' from the May government come from? Can you link us up? There have been numerous predictions from other bodies, whether academics, the CBI, the Bank of England etc., but in your own words, they are not in charge of the people the country democratically chose as the will of the people to run this show.
Do you not think that Predictions / forecasts made by staunch remainers, will not be heavily biased to suit their agenda's???

Of course they are... You won't hear the chancellor tell us any positive forecasts regards brexit even if there are some..

We will only get to hear all the dressed up negative nonsense Bruce.

All the forecasts that you look at come from a very much remain camp.

They are not to be taken literally
 
Do you not think that Predictions / forecasts made by staunch remainers, will not be heavily biased to suit their agenda's???

Of course they are... You won't hear the chancellor tell us any positive forecasts regards brexit even if there are some..

We will only get to hear all the dressed up negative nonsense Bruce.

All the forecasts that you look at come from a very much remain camp.

They are not to be taken literally

With respect, you didn't say anything about predictions from the CBI or the BoE, you said predictions from those in charge of Brexit, ie the government. So that's arch Brexiters like Johnson, Davis and Fox, plus flip flopping careerists converts like Leadsom, Hunt, Javid and May herself, all of which have come out strongly in support of Brexit during the past few years.

So, I'll ask again. What has come out from these people that you believe marks them out as undermining the Brexit effort?
 
With respect, you didn't say anything about predictions from the CBI or the BoE, you said predictions from those in charge of Brexit, ie the government. So that's arch Brexiters like Johnson, Davis and Fox, plus flip flopping careerists converts like Leadsom, Hunt, Javid and May herself, all of which have come out strongly in support of Brexit during the past few years.

So, I'll ask again. What has come out from these people that you believe marks them out as undermining the Brexit effort?


you are joking right bruce ??

anything you in particular search for in forecasts and predictions will all come from the remain side, and so will be heavily biased.

even neutrals (if to be believed) like BoE and CBI will come out in support of our very much remain government.

the government does not want Brexit, so will dress up every 'fact' , forecast and prediction to make it look like doomsday is coming with a no deal Brexit, which in turn makes them look like saviours and not sabateurs...
 
Where have these 'biased predictions' from the May government come from? Can you link us up? There have been numerous predictions from other bodies, whether academics, the CBI, the Bank of England etc., but in your own words, they are not in charge of the people the country democratically chose as the will of the people to run this show.
Plenty of independent bodies and experts also think it's a terrible idea. But let's just set those aside for the purposes of this debate :Blink:
 
you are joking right bruce ??

anything you in particular search for in forecasts and predictions will all come from the remain side, and so will be heavily biased.

even neutrals (if to be believed) like BoE and CBI will come out in support of our very much remain government.

the government does not want Brexit, so will dress up every 'fact' , forecast and prediction to make it look like doomsday is coming with a no deal Brexit, which in turn makes them look like saviours and not sabateurs...

Just one link would do Frank. From the government. The government that were elected because Brexiters presumably thought they would do the job of enacting what they wanted.
 
thought this was a bit strange with all this turmoil going on?
 
You said that negative forecasts from our clearly remain government show that Brexit has been hijacked by remainers. I would like a link to one of those forecasts.

anyone of them bruce, every single forecast you have read or linked up yourself. take your pick
 
thought this was a bit strange with all this turmoil going on?

bruce would never have linked this up, as it doesn't go with his agenda.

would have chosen to ignore it and link up a BoE fact instead.

that's if any of them are believable
 
anyone of them bruce, every single forecast you have read or linked up yourself. take your pick

Come now Frank, you're discrediting yourself. From recollection, all of the reports, forecasts and predictions I've shared are from non-government agencies. You said the government themselves are blatant remainders and it's their fault Brexit is not going as you would like. You made the claim, you provide the evidence. I'm sure you wouldn't like to come across as disingenuous, so I'm sure you have some to hand (and frantic Googling to find one is also acceptable).
 
I did. Never said it. Can you show me where I did?
really serves the point you're trying to make and the perceived 'victims' can wallow in indignation. Still my point stands; most of those ERG types are cretins. People in a responsible position should know better than to link to speeches of horrible organisations like AfD etc... I don't think you know half how bad they actually are. I don't buy into half-arsed defences saying he doesn't endorse etc... Fact is he/a lot of his associates keep being associated with a whole range of odious figures.
 
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