Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Zezti]

Greenland became the first and only country to leave the EEC by popular decree after a referendum was held in 1982. As part of the Danish Kingdom, Greenland had joined the Community in 1973 even though its citizens had voted against membership. Six years later, Denmark granted home rule to the island and a referendum was held, resulting in 52 percent of Greenlanders voting in favour of leaving, the same number as the UK vote. The relatively close result, says Vesterbirk, “had an enormous influence on the atmosphere. We were told again and again that the minority was just as big as the majority and we couldn’t do it,” he says. “I guess you will hear that in Britain as well. It’s the drawback of referendums in a democracy. You have to take it seriously, you have to live with the fact that the majority is the majority.”

And look at the incredible economic superpower the mighty Greenland is today...

 

[Joey66]

And look at the incredible economic superpower the mighty Greenland is today...

They wanted their fishing rights back ...........the EU were ripping them off....... a vote is a vote = democrocy......

 

[Frang]

This mate
You, if you voted Leave again, would still have the Irish border issue to solve. I ask this question of the brexiteer elite on here quite a bit so how would you solve this problem? Would you accept the carve up of 'the UK' and separate customs arrangements for Britain and the six counties or would you just give Ireland back to the Irish? Otherwise, how would you solve that problem mate?

yes ive already said that if it solves the Brexit problem then I see no reason why Ireland shouldn't be as one, and as Scotland voted so heavily in favour to remain, then they should also do their own thing.

I can not fathom why London should even be involved with northern Ireland and indeed Scotland when we have such different views regards Europe.

 

[Jebus_lives]

A vote to leave the EU on my ballot paper......

Well that was the option, not necessarily the reason.

 

[Zezti]

They wanted their fishing rights back ...........the EU were ripping them off....... a vote is a vote = democrocy......

That's nice.

 

[Frang]

Right. Perhaps we could have an election where voters are educated and informed about the EU instead of intimidated and misinformed.

can you honestly say anyone has been further educated during the last 3 years of Brexit talks... I would say not. not even our own government can agree on a good way forward, so how is joe bloggs going to know the best way to take the country forward.

as it stands I still think a no deal Brexit is the best way to go , I have probably hardened more so for this , and this with all the 'educational posts' I have read in here regarding remaining.

 

[Frang]

I wish they'd just leave so we can ban @BigBlueNose . Get on with it May ffs.

shut up bruce

 

[Frang]

Soon we'll be able to torture him with salt, like the slug that he is, and no coffee adled Eurocrat will be able to tell us otherwise.

reported

 

[johnblue23]

The EU have given the Blairites time to complete their anti democratic coup and revoke article 50. It's what the Blairites do when they don't like the result and who have never forgiven the members of the Labour party for democratically voting in Corbyn as leader. They spout 'democracy' when it suits them, as they did with the illegal war against Iraq - MPs voted for it, and when it doesn't suit them they act underhandedly to ignore it. They have never accepted that the people acted against the interests of the majority of the ruling class and against their career interests.

Blair has spent the last 3 years going around European capitals telling them that the UK will 'stay in the EU' and to let those hard line Brexiteers hang themselves, which they have done. The majority of the main stream media have got behind the 'ignore the referendum result' in the 'national interest'. The biggest joke of all is the 'it's the biggest crisis since WW2'. So much a 'crisis' that they will be packing their bags and swanning off to pastures sunny. 'National interest' only if it doesn't get in the way of their interests.

This is a crucial period in the UK history when 'democracy' has been shown up to be not worth the breathe to speak the words. It is just tha, mere words with no substance. Every time a government is elected it gives the people the right to disagree with the decision get on the streets and bring down that government. Similar to what the yellow vest protests are doing in France with their attempt to bring down Macron.

The SNP would be better spending their time on getting independence. Why should the Scottish nationalists stand in the way of England and Wales leaving the EU. Likewise, why should the Good Friday Agreement stand in the way of the English and Welsh leaving the EU. The only course of action for the English and Welsh - who voted overwhelmingly to leave the EU - is to finally and completely get out of Northern Ireland and allow unification, then the English and Welsh can have their Brexit. The break up of the UK is on the cards. The parliamentary shenanigans that is going on, should be a warning for those that want Scottish independence and Irish unification, they will pull out all the dirty tricks going.

 

[Frang]

[Poor language removed] humanity man. We're free to take back control and be unconscionable swines to our hearts content. The only choice you'll have is whether you want to be stamped by my right boot or left boot.

are you feeling ok bruce, you sound just like Macron..

 

[Joey66]

Well that was the option, not necessarily the reason.

Yes voted by the HOC by 6-1 on that ballot paper , and idiots like you - say no one knew what they were voting for it was so simple remain in the EU or Leave the EU ........ Leave won but.... remainer's moaned.......

 

[Jebus_lives]

They wanted their fishing rights back ...........the EU were ripping them off....... a vote is a vote = democrocy......

See I can empathise with a view that you want the country to have complete control and not cede any aspect of sovereignty and I respect that position entirely. But it should be accepted that the increase in 'freedom' will have profound consequences in other areas. This is a considered position.

I suppose the question is do you want a smaller share of a pie that you've had to agree upon as a group or all of a much smaller pie that you've decided upon yourself.

What I cannot understand and have no time for is the people that still cling onto notions of a Brexit that is not and never was possible, but they have convinced themselves will happen if only Remainers/May/Queen/Lord's/Parliament/EU wouldn't block it.

 

[Emlynsqueakyvoice]

yes ive already said that if it solves the Brexit problem then I see no reason why Ireland shouldn't be as one, and as Scotland voted so heavily in favour to remain, then they should also do their own thing.

I can not fathom why London should even be involved with northern Ireland and indeed Scotland when we have such different views regards Europe.

So are you advocating a customs border down the Irish sea or Irish reunification? Either way you are upsetting a sizeable amount of 'British citizens'. Would you be prepared to throw them under the bus in order for Great Britain (or England and Wales) to leave the EU?

 

[Frang]

So are you advocating a customs border down the Irish sea or Irish reunification? Either way you are upsetting a sizeable amount of 'British citizens'. Would you be prepared to throw them under the bus in order for Great Britain (or England and Wales) to leave the EU?

what other way is there. this back stop is not wanted.

we are leaving with no deal on October 31st … so things need to be in place

why cant we move with the times, Ireland is much more settled these days and i cant see why a united Ireland wouldn't work, Scotland have wanted independence for an age, and this would be the right time, as they are staunchly remain in the EU

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I bet you loved it in the free world...... drinking and eating out cheaper....... ?

In the sense that it's paid for me, yes, yes it is.