Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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Utter crap that shows you mentality of course it was a negotiation strategy, also you should have voted OUT..... :D
If your union took the big bargaining chip of the table and you lost your job - you never answered that one?

The thing that most leavers/hard-line brexiteers have failed to understand throughout this entire process is the mentality of the EU27 and their unswerving belief in the single market and their complete willingness to defend that principle. They also were very mindful of upcoming Euro elections and the rise of poplulism throughout Europe. For those reasons they had to remain strong and defiant and if necessary accept and deal with the no-deal brexit scenario (short term pain-long term gain).

To such an end the EU were ready to accept and deal with the no deal brexit scenario, to offer support for those countries most affected eg Ireland because they knew that we, the UK for all our pompous bluster were totally and completely unprepared for a no-deal scenario.

The EU were quite prepared to sit it out, because they knew that following no deal the UK would very quickly become paralysed, with goods stuck at ports, with motorways clogged up, with the pound in freefall. The irony being is that the EU would still be calling the shots (allowing airlines to fly etc...). Very soon the UK would be forced back to Brussels for re-negotiations.

So the EU thinking was that a no-deal brexit was always going to be to them, a continuation of negotiations and never an end game. That is what the clowns in charge of our negotiations failed to understand. No deal was never a big issue to the EU but it was to us, so bringing that into negotiating play was always going to fail.
 
The thing that most leavers/hard-line brexiteers have failed to understand throughout this entire process is the mentality of the EU27 and their unswerving belief in the single market and their complete willingness to defend that principle. They also were very mindful of upcoming Euro elections and the rise of poplulism throughout Europe. For those reasons they had to remain strong and defiant and if necessary accept and deal with the no-deal brexit scenario (short term pain-long term gain).

To such an end the EU were ready to accept and deal with the no deal brexit scenario, to offer support for those countries most affected eg Ireland because they knew that we, the UK for all our pompous bluster were totally and completely unprepared for a no-deal scenario.

The EU were quite prepared to sit it out, because they knew that following no deal the UK would very quickly become paralysed, with goods stuck at ports, with motorways clogged up, with the pound in freefall. The irony being is that the EU would still be calling the shots (allowing airlines to fly etc...). Very soon the UK would be forced back to Brussels for re-negotiations.

So the EU thinking was that a no-deal brexit was always going to be to them, a continuation of negotiations and never an end game. That is what the clowns in charge of our negotiations failed to understand. No deal was never a big issue to the EU but it was to us, so bringing that into negotiating play was always going to fail.
Stop gloating as you don't know what crappy deal we will get yet........
 
urm did you take into account the massive population increases from your dates?
I never apologised either........
Irrelevant ; you said it was the highest turn-out of any post war political election - it wasn't. Do you now subscribe to the notion of 'fake news' ?
 
the 17.4 million are saddened also.... it's called democrocy look the word up........

If only some of those 17.4 million had access to the cold hard facts about what leaving the EU in a no-deal scenario actually meant, then maybe we wouldn't be where we are today.

LEAVE MEANS LEAVE!!! = Utter bollox

It wasn't democracy - it was a farce
 
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