Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Toffeelover]

A few thousand EU remain camp demonstrating on the Whitehall green the police forbid them to have the demo have arrived in large numbers on channel 4 news now!

So what good is that the decision is irreversible.

 

[larrygobfiend]

Disgusting comment.

Why? Do you think it's right for people to have loads of kids with no means of supporting them? Do you think that's fair on the children?

 

[Joey66]

So what good is that the decision is irreversible.

Yes I know but its the instability of call me dave walking away from it all he called the referendum he should have carried it through imo!
Not oh its up to someone else spitting his dummy out!
He knows he is a lame duck prime minister to walk away when we needed stability??????

 

[Toffeelover]

Yes I know but its the instability of call me dave walking away from it all he called the referendum he should have carried it through imo!
Not oh its up to someone else spitting his dummy out!
He knows he is a lame duck prime minister to walk away when we needed stability??????

I see it like this, last season we ended up crap. RM would not walk so he was pushed but he would have stayed otherwise to carry on. Would you have liked RM to hold his hand saying job is not for me and walk away?

 

[Seanjd]

Interesting response Mate. Talking of Industry and jobs creation, how do you envisage that can be achieved? I will tell you what I think, you will probably not like it but here goes. Reduce Corporation tax to 10%, reduce business rates and stamp duty, Increase the tax free allowance by 10%, reduce IT by 2%. That in my book would encourage business to set up here and thus create jobs!

Possibly, I don't know. Look, good industrial jobs were taken away from this country. Well paid jobs which recruited whole towns and cities. Jobs with prospects, like in coal mines and on docks.

The modern day equivalent is a zero hours call centre.

 

[Seanjd]

Why? Do you think it's right for people to have loads of kids with no means of supporting them? Do you think that's fair on the children?

I don't think it's fair to show anger like that to some of the most vulnerable people in our society. They are who these comments are directed at, and language like 'scroats' and 'leaches' is purely demeaning and divisive.

We should be pointing out fingers to those at the top, not the bottom.

 

[Toffeelover]

Possibly, I don't know. Look, good industrial jobs were taken away from this country. Well paid jobs which recruited whole towns and cities. Jobs with prospects, like in coal mines and on docks.

The modern day equivalent is a zero hours call centre.

Not quite mate. Look at the Steel works, it was the EU who was blocking our Government from stepping in with support. Look at BHS screwed by a couple of cheating thieving, oh you add the adjectives. I do now want to be banned.

 

[Brennan]

Not quite mate. Look at the Steel works, it was the EU who was blocking our Government from stepping in with support. Look at BHS screwed by a couple of cheating thieving, oh you add the adjectives. I do now want to be banned.

Ahem.

http://wire.novaramedia.com/2016/03...block-eu-attempts-to-save-the-steel-industry/

 

[Brennan]

So what good is that the decision is irreversible.

Actually it's not at all. MPs still have to vote to repeal the 1972 agreement.

 

[Toffeelover]

Ahem.

http://wire.novaramedia.com/2016/03...block-eu-attempts-to-save-the-steel-industry/

Thank you I stand corrected.

 

[Toffeelover]

Actually it's not at all. MPs still have to vote to repeal the 1972 agreement.

I do not think our friends on the other side of the channel would agree, they have it firmly in their minds now we are leaving. I do not think Juncker would welcome Farage back!!

 

[Joey66]

I see it like this, last season we ended up crap. RM would not walk so he was pushed but he would have stayed otherwise to carry on. Would you have liked RM to hold his hand saying job is not for me and walk away?

Different alls Dave had to do was put his brexit MP,s in his cabinet and get on with it imo!

 

[bobbydigital]

Interesting response Mate. Talking of Industry and jobs creation, how do you envisage that can be achieved? I will tell you what I think, you will probably not like it but here goes. Reduce Corporation tax to 10%, reduce business rates and stamp duty, Increase the tax free allowance by 10%, reduce IT by 2%. That in my book would encourage business to set up here and thus create jobs!

It's an interesting idea mate, the problem is it's just not feasible. How is the government going to provide the services the country needs when the tax income is reduced so massively?

If you reduce it by a smaller amount will it be enough to cover the increased costs to the companies in forms of trade tariffs, quotas etc?

I see your point, there are so many factors in play here though. I just feel that removing ourselves from the EU single market restricts us a lot and there is no real economic fix (in the short to medium term at least).

 

[Durham Toffee]

The disgusting way in which hate crimes, thuggish narrow-mindedness and deplorably vulgar jingoism is increasingly prevalent, I'm not really sure what it means anymore. However, the petulance by sections of the media and the populace; the propensity to deprecate and devalue the potential that we have as a nation, is equally disappointing.

I can understand the 'leave' vote; I've always empathised with it in some form - especially in the North. And the 'remain' voters are right to be skeptical; concerned by the increasing isolation we are experiencing as a nation.

But this isn't the Britian we want to establish, surely?

This isn't the image we want to project to the world. Because, at this current juncture, we look utterly ridiculous, divided, devoid of all aforementioned traits of what it SHOULD mean to be British and - quite frankly - a pale and flaccid imitation of a great nation.

 

[Toffeelover]

It's an interesting idea mate, the problem is it's just not feasible. How is the government going to provide the services the country needs when the tax income is reduced so massively?

If you reduce it by a smaller amount will it be enough to cover the increased costs to the companies in forms of trade tariffs, quotas etc?

I see your point, there are so many factors in play here though. I just feel that removing ourselves from the EU single market restricts us a lot and there is no real economic fix (in the short to medium term at least).

It could be spread over a few years but the message would get out to the World. It is what I would like to see, the country become a low tax entity in the World.