Current Affairs EU In or Out

[dandydan]

Deflect deflect.

Context lad, context. Your putting hurt feelings over human lives and rape victims.

 

[Seanjd]

If sobeobe has voted leave to rebell against a government they feel is failing them, that's fine, it doesn't make them uneducated or racist. The feel let down with their current predicament and have tried to change it. No issues. I have an issue with those who have go in with the sole intention of stopping migrants coming to this country and in doing so have risked our financial stability.

But why do you think lots of those people might blame migrants?

 

[Jib in lad]

Context lad, context. Your putting hurt feelings over human lives and rape victims.

Nah we were talking about Trump then you do what you do when loosing a argument you deflect and brought the liar Clinton in to it.

 

[ianefc]

But why do you think lots of those people might blame migrants?

Which people? Racists?

 

[bobbydigital]

 

[Seanjd]

Which people? Racists?

Who are these racist people though? Surely there must have been lots for them to have pushed through Brexit?

 

[ianefc]

Who are these racist people though? Surely there must have been lots for them to have pushed through Brexit?

I'm certain that people will have issues with migrants for many reasons, there will be a narrative that they are taking jobs from British people, there will be people who just don't want foreigners here, Farage made mention of what happened in Germany with the migrants from the Middle East and the sexual assaults, that too would scare people, there were mentions that ISIS fighters could slip through the metaphorical net and get into Britain.

All of these things added to the exit campaign on migration, project fear from them I suppose, I don't think it's unrealistic that this scaremongering could of gained enough voters to carry the vote over the line.

The turnout was the biggest since '92. Something inspired them, I'm convinced the migration has done it.

Ironically some of these scroats happily claiming benefits because they say that they can't get a job, may now be forced into work. The same scroats that have issues with migrants.

 

[larrygobfiend]

I'm certain that people will have issues with migrants for many reasons, there will be a narrative that they are taking jobs from British people, there will be people who just don't want foreigners here, Farage made mention of what happened in Germany with the migrants from the Middle East and the sexual assaults, that too would scare people, there were mentions that ISIS fighters could slip through the metaphorical net and get into Britain.

All of these things added to the exit campaign on migration, project fear from them I suppose, I don't think it's unrealistic that this scaremongering could of gained enough voters to carry the vote over the line.

The turnout was the biggest since '92. Something inspired them, I'm convinced the migration has done it.

Ironically some of these scroats happily claiming benefits because they say that they can't get a job, may now be forced into work. The same scroats that have issues with migrants.

The same scroats who can't stop having kids despite having no means of supporting them. Give me immigrants over these leaches every time.

 

[dandydan]

Nah we were talking about Trump then you do what you do when loosing a argument you deflect and brought the liar Clinton in to it.

That's because she is a much worse person.

 

[bobbydigital]

I'm certain that people will have issues with migrants for many reasons, there will be a narrative that they are taking jobs from British people, there will be people who just don't want foreigners here, Farage made mention of what happened in Germany with the migrants from the Middle East and the sexual assaults, that too would scare people, there were mentions that ISIS fighters could slip through the metaphorical net and get into Britain.

All of these things added to the exit campaign on migration, project fear from them I suppose, I don't think it's unrealistic that this scaremongering could of gained enough voters to carry the vote over the line.

The turnout was the biggest since '92. Something inspired them, I'm convinced the migration has done it.

Ironically some of these scroats happily claiming benefits because they say that they can't get a job, may now be forced into work. The same scroats that have issues with migrants.

Whole thing is pretty bizarre. Although I don't think they will be forced into work. The effect on the economy will mean less jobs and surely they can't kick out the migrants that are already here?

Decreased GDP and a further right tory government might mean some benefit cuts though.

 

[ianefc]

Whole thing is pretty bizarre. Although I don't think they will be forced into work. The effect on the economy will mean less jobs and surely they can't kick out the migrants that are already here?

Decreased GDP and a further right tory government might mean some benefit cuts though.

Nobody will be sent away thankfully.

 

[Seanjd]

I'm certain that people will have issues with migrants for many reasons, there will be a narrative that they are taking jobs from British people, there will be people who just don't want foreigners here, Farage made mention of what happened in Germany with the migrants from the Middle East and the sexual assaults, that too would scare people, there were mentions that ISIS fighters could slip through the metaphorical net and get into Britain.

All of these things added to the exit campaign on migration, project fear from them I suppose, I don't think it's unrealistic that this scaremongering could of gained enough voters to carry the vote over the line.

The turnout was the biggest since '92. Something inspired them, I'm convinced the migration has done it.

Ironically some of these scroats happily claiming benefits because they say that they can't get a job, may now be forced into work. The same scroats that have issues with migrants.

I agree with everything you've said until the last paragraph, which I find totally crass. These 'scroats' as you put it, are not to blame. They are not the ones doing the damage.

'Because they say they can't get a job'. You know as well as I do that jobs are few and far between, not due to migrants, but due to lack of industry and job creation. Who suffers? The 'scroats' as you put it. To make that claim that people are happy to claim benefits it's on part with something Jeremy Kyle would say. Awful.

I've said it before on here, but without assuming as to your background and circumstances, the greatest thing the Tory party has ever done is to turn the work class against the working class. Too many are too bothered about the lives of those they consider inferior than to look at the bigger picture. Look upwards. Who's fault is it that huge swathes of people are anti immigration? This isn't a collective conscious which has just decided to think that way, this thinking has been engrained into large parts of society, the downtrodden, those with few prospects, by the upper echelons for years.

 

[Seanjd]

The same scroats who can't stop having kids despite having no means of supporting them. Give me immigrants over these leaches every time.

Disgusting comment.

 

[Joey66]

A few thousand EU remain camp demonstrating on the Whitehall green the police forbid them to have the demo have arrived in large numbers on channel 4 news now!

 

[Toffeelover]

I agree with everything you've said until the last paragraph, which I find totally crass. These 'scroats' as you put it, are not to blame. They are not the ones doing the damage.

'Because they say they can't get a job'. You know as well as I do that jobs are few and far between, not due to migrants, but due to lack of industry and job creation. Who suffers? The 'scroats' as you put it. To make that claim that people are happy to claim benefits it's on part with something Jeremy Kyle would say. Awful.

I've said it before on here, but without assuming as to your background and circumstances, the greatest thing the Tory party has ever done is to turn the work class against the working class. Too many are too bothered about the lives of those they consider inferior than to look at the bigger picture. Look upwards. Who's fault is it that huge swathes of people are anti immigration? This isn't a collective conscious which has just decided to think that way, this thinking has been engrained into large parts of society, the downtrodden, those with few prospects, by the upper echelons for years.

Interesting response Mate. Talking of Industry and jobs creation, how do you envisage that can be achieved? I will tell you what I think, you will probably not like it but here goes. Reduce Corporation tax to 10%, reduce business rates and stamp duty, Increase the tax free allowance by 10%, reduce IT by 2%. That in my book would encourage business to set up here and thus create jobs!