Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
Status
Not open for further replies.
EU say yes to short delay if deal agreed. May's deal rejected again. There's a vote in parliament for longer delay. EU meets and says 1-2 years the day before Brexit on the proviso of a softer direction. UK accepts. May resigns, leadership election - Boris Johnson elected then general election is called. Johnson wins. Tories win. Johnson tries to go hard. EU says no to removing backstop. Nothing happens for months. We do the same dance in 1-2 years time?
 
It's like condoms don't exist. We don't have much money, so lets have lots of kids who are really expensive to raise, then complain to people about how we don't have much money coz our situation is totes their fault.

Good one, Trevelyan. Nailed her.

I expect you'll continue enjoying the political fruits of your condescension for decades to come.

Ta.
 
Good one, Trevelyan. Nailed her.

I expect you'll continue enjoying the political fruits of your condescension for decades to come.

Ta.

Seriously, I don't get why people are somehow surprised at how expensive children are, and then complain about their financial hardship when they learn that they can't afford the large family they produce. The average cost of raising a child to 21 is around £230,000. We lionise parents as all round good eggs, and then infantalise them for not being able to make basic decisions for themselves.

I told my boss to f off and now I'm unemployed. It's all society's fault man.
 
Last edited:
Seriously, I don't get why people are somehow surprised at how expensive children are, and then complain about their financial hardship when they learn that they can't afford the large family they produce. The average cost of raising a child to 21 is around £230,000. We lionise parents as all round good eggs, and then infantalise them for not being able to make basic decisions for themselves.

I told my boss to f off and now I'm unemployed. It's all societies fault man.
Tote that barge, lift that bail
 
Seriously, I don't get why people are somehow surprised at how expensive children are, and then complain about their financial hardship when they learn that they can't afford the large family they produce. The average cost of raising a child to 21 is around £230,000. We lionise parents as all round good eggs, and then infantalise them for not being able to make basic decisions for themselves.

I told my boss to f off and now I'm unemployed. It's all societies fault man.

I suppose because when even teachers can no longer manage to sustain the bare minimum of a nuclear family, it represents a substantial, undeniable collapse in the standard of living in real terms?

Your response seems to be simultaneously A) it isn't true (she must be lying about something!) and B) even it was, it was delivered by The Free Market and is therefore The Best of All Possible Worlds

And you seem genuinely baffled why we aren't all responding like the horse in Animal Farm

You are not far off a communist functionary, but for liberalism - "This is a grown up world we're living in here isn't it?" is probably literally something your in-laws were told when they complained that the shops didn't carry blue jeans.

You love breaking other people's eggs, and every year move further from the omelette.

Anyhow, this is like debating Joey66, only with grammar.

It no longer sparks joy.
 
They were played by May because they were offered a spotlight and leapt at it despite not qualifying to be there. Corbyn did the right thing imho, he couldn't legitimise their existence.

They exist whether Corbyn likes it or not.

While May and the Tories are the chief culprits in this utter, complete fiasco, Corbyn and the Labour Party haven't helped. Most of these politicians put their party first, not what's good for the country.
 
They exist whether Corbyn likes it or not.

While May and the Tories are the chief culprits in this utter, complete fiasco, Corbyn and the Labour Party haven't helped. Most of these politicians put their party first, not what's good for the country.
Didn't the Labour Party ensure some level of parliamentary engagement in this process in the first place?
 
I suppose because when even teachers can no longer manage to sustain the bare minimum of a nuclear family, it represents a substantial, undeniable collapse in the standard of living in real terms?

Your response seems to be simultaneously A) it isn't true (she must be lying about something!) and B) even it was, it was delivered by The Free Market and is therefore The Best of All Possible Worlds

And you seem genuinely baffled why we aren't all responding like the horse in Animal Farm

You are not far off a communist functionary, but for liberalism - "This is a grown up world we're living in here isn't it?" is probably literally something your in-laws were told when they complained that the shops didn't carry blue jeans.

You love breaking other people's eggs, and every year move further from the omelette.

Anyhow, this is like debating Joey66, only with grammar.

It no longer sparks joy.

Now now, there are plenty of teachers that can quite happily support a family. You happen to have chosen a single example of a teacher who was both the sole breadwinner in her family, and as the female, the one most likely (by statistics) to compromise her career for parenting duties. I could easily share similar anecdotes of teachers who live a very comfortable life, have 2.4 children, their own house and all that, but what's the point? Using solitary examples to extrapolate national trends is only good when it makes your point, not anyone elses.

Regarding the jibe about my in-laws, it raises the point doesn't it? My father-in-law hated the communists, openly opposed them, and was punished for it. He got depressed, became an alcoholic and ended up killing himself. So yeah, good on him for sticking to his principles, but his principles left his family without a pot to pee in and going genuinely hungry, not relatively hungry next to Tarquin with his Porsche. By all means have dreams and aspirations for a different life, but you have to maintain contact with the reality of life as it is.
 
4kn3dbispfn21.jpg
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Welcome

Join the Everton conversation today.
Fewer ads, full access, completely free.

🛒 Visit Shop

Support Grand Old Team by checking out our latest Everton gear!
Back
Top