Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Frang]

this is like pulling teeth

 

[Harryflashman]

positive vote next week if not bring it back AGAIN and AGAIN


arrrrrrggghhh

It’s completely ridiculous, in reality If it’s this deal or no deal itt might have to be the deal that everyone and mean everyone says is worse than where we currently are.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

their utter desperation to keep us as part of the EU with their 'deal' shows how worried of us leaving.

we bring more to the table than most other EU states...

the EU will be scared of us building stronger trade links with the USA and China..

Morning mert

 

[Barnfred 55]

There's lots of rumours that the 1922 committee are going to try and force her hand.

Right. I hadn't heard that. I thought you meant following her PMs question time this afternoon when she made some cryptic comment that could have been interpreted any number of ways.

If she does go now it's just going to get even more chaotic IMO, as you'll get a power struggle for the Tories just when a 100% effort has to be going into the Brexit crisis.

I feel like pulling my hair out at the sheer incompetence.

 

[Tubey]

tusk saying short extention is possibly till june


WHAAAAAAAAAT FORRRRRRRRRRR??

He's saying it's possible if the deal is signed off in parliament.

May is toast.

 

[Frang]

He's saying it's possible if the deal is signed off in parliament.

May is toast.

That deal will never get through??

What happend here then?

 

[Tubey]

That deal will never get through??

What happend here then?

Tusk has basically said you can have the extension if May's deal gets through parliament, to give time to implement what is needed to leave in an orderly fashion.

It leaves May in the position of Meaningful Vote 3 as the only option. However, she can't, because it hasn't materially changed and Bercow won't allow it.

So on the surface of things, she's now completely out of options. She could resign tonight.

The only thing I think she can do now is challenge Bercow to not allow it. If he wilts and allows it, then she'd have to challenge everyone to choose between her deal or no deal - but the reality is there's other options, like indicative votes, so it's a false choice; her deal will fail again with a bare minimum of a 50 majority IMO.

She's done.

 

[Deleted member 48881]

fresh elections looming

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

Kyle, Wilson amendment incoming!

 

[tsubaki]

Tusk has basically said you can have the extension if May's deal gets through parliament, to give time to implement what is needed to leave in an orderly fashion.

It leaves May in the position of Meaningful Vote 3 as the only option. However, she can't, because it hasn't materially changed and Bercow won't allow it.

So on the surface of things, she's now completely out of options. She could resign tonight.

The only thing I think she can do now is challenge Bercow to not allow it. If he wilts and allows it, then she'd have to challenge everyone to choose between her deal or no deal - but the reality is there's other options, like indicative votes, so it's a false choice; her deal will fail again with a bare minimum of a 50 majority IMO.

She's done.

Indeed, and of course even if the deal squeaks through the EU have said that they do not want to be negotiating like this, with a government like this, for the next couple of years.

 

[Barnfred 55]

Tusk has basically said you can have the extension if May's deal gets through parliament, to give time to implement what is needed to leave in an orderly fashion.

It leaves May in the position of Meaningful Vote 3 as the only option. However, she can't, because it hasn't materially changed and Bercow won't allow it.

So on the surface of things, she's now completely out of options. She could resign tonight.

The only thing I think she can do now is challenge Bercow to not allow it. If he wilts and allows it, then she'd have to challenge everyone to choose between her deal or no deal - but the reality is there's other options, like indicative votes, so it's a false choice; her deal will fail again with a bare minimum of a 50 majority IMO.

She's done.

Agree with all that apart from the indicative votes. May's deal fails again, she'll walk and Parliament will put in a late request to EU for long extension. I don't think there's time for anything else, that's if you even get a majority for any of the indicative votes. It won't be until Monday at earliest that she'll have the 3rd vote.

 

[tsubaki]

Kyle, Wilson amendment incoming!

Possibly - its one of the two most likely outcomes. The other is that she stands up and says that unless the deal is agreed she will revoke Article 50.

 

[roydo]

It leaves May in the position of Meaningful Vote 3 as the only option. However, she can't, because it hasn't materially changed and Bercow won't allow it.

Some could argue that a change of a leaving date is a meaningful change.

 

[tsubaki]

Some could argue that a change of a leaving date is a meaningful change.

Indeed, in fact I expect the good folk of the Mail to be telling the nation that the fact it says "Meaningful Vote 3" rather than "Meaningful Vote 2" is a meaningful change.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

Possibly - its one of the two most likely outcomes. The other is that she stands up and says that unless the deal is agreed she will revoke Article 50.

Another massive twist in the saga is about to play out!