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I don’t usually get involved in stuff like this but it affecting my work so has annoyed me.

I don’t really care why people voted to leave. Or voted to remain. But I really struggle to understand why those who voted to leave trusted the government to actually implement it without causing this massive balls up making us look like complete nobheads.

Can anyone answer that for me? Might make me hate my job a bit less.
 
  • Tom Newton Dunn

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Remainer Cabinet source: “This is the move that ensures she stays in No 10, avoiding decision. It will not work as a strategy for getting the Deal through. This is not what Parliament voted for last week”.
 
It's disturbing how many people seem to be treating this like it's a game :Blink:

We won , you lost , ha ha , get over it remoaners , 17.4m ...... the government of the day are stockpiling medicine and consider it the biggest crisis this country has faced since the Second World War and every financial expert of note , expect Patrick Minford , predicts a huge financial impact but billy in stoke who used to work for Arriva knows better . It reminds me of when the Alfie Evans case was in the news and dinner ladies were lecturing paediatricians and again it was all about ‘winning ‘ .


I mentioned earlier in the thread but it’s happened again so twice now my medications haven’t been available for prescription. I suffered my injury about a decade ago and it’s never happened in that following ten years but twice in about 3 months and the cause is believed to be stockpiling because of Brexit . It’s clearly a concern that it’s going to impact depending on what happens in the next 9 days .

I’ll never argue with the rights of people to want to leave or the result but it’s the dismissal of the impact , even as it becomes clear of the chaos around us that infuriates . The championing of no deal , when it was never an option the dismissal of experts as know nothings , the calling out of wrong predictions when the morning after the referendum mark Carney was actually trying to prove himself wrong because that’s his job .

I keep saying this won’t effect me and it pretty much wont , although the medication issue doesn’t sit comfortably . my pursuit of an Irish passport should resolve any potentional movement problems . Financially even if it’s no deal that went as badly as expected it shouldn’t really reach me but it doesn’t mean I don’t worry , the amount of people who this clearly will impact glibly dismissing it or not caring that it may badly hurt others simply because ‘we won, get over ‘ feels distasteful.
 
I don’t usually get involved in stuff like this but it affecting my work so has annoyed me.

I don’t really care why people voted to leave. Or voted to remain. But I really struggle to understand why those who voted to leave trusted the government to actually implement it without causing this massive balls up making us look like complete nobheads.

Can anyone answer that for me? Might make me hate my job a bit less.


Me too. The lack of guidance trickling down is absolutely astounding. We've got plans A-Z depending on the outcome but at the end of the day you can't prepare for what you don't know.
I don't think the people in the "I VOTED AND I WON SO JUST DO IT" camp realise what an absolute nightmare this is to deal with as it is, never mind with the continuous shithousing from the government
 
We won , you lost , ha ha , get over it remoaners , 17.4m ...... the government of the day are stockpiling medicine and consider it the biggest crisis this country has faced since the Second World War and every financial expert of note , expect Patrick Minford , predicts a huge financial impact but billy in stoke who used to work for Arriva knows better . It reminds me of when the Alfie Evans case was in the news and dinner ladies were lecturing paediatricians and again it was all about ‘winning ‘ .


I mentioned earlier in the thread but it’s happened again so twice now my medications haven’t been available for prescription. I suffered my injury about a decade ago and it’s never happened in that following ten years but twice in about 3 months and the cause is believed to be stockpiling because of Brexit . It’s clearly a concern that it’s going to impact depending on what happens in the next 9 days .

I’ll never argue with the rights of people to want to leave or the result but it’s the dismissal of the impact , even as it becomes clear of the chaos around us that infuriates . The championing of no deal , when it was never an option the dismissal of experts as know nothings , the calling out of wrong predictions when the morning after the referendum mark Carney was actually trying to prove himself wrong because that’s his job .

I keep saying this won’t effect me and it pretty much wont , although the medication issue doesn’t sit comfortably . my pursuit of an Irish passport should resolve any potentional movement problems . Financially even if it’s no deal that went as badly as expected it shouldn’t really reach me but it doesn’t mean I don’t worry , the amount of people who this clearly will impact glibly dismissing it or not caring that it may badly hurt others simply because ‘we won, get over ‘ feels distasteful.

That's just it. Bar perhaps a revolution that ends with 'the elite' under a guillotine, there is nary a single transformative event whereby those who were successful before don't come out of it better than those who were not successful before. This can be economic recessions, technological disruption, political upheaval, you name it. This notion that Brexit will wash away the liberal elite and it'll be the 'left behinds' turn in the sun is not borne out by any evidence in the last 100 years.

It just seems so daft. Something as simple as the EU version of ESTA that I mentioned a few days ago isn't a big cost on it's own (probably around £15), but when you think there were 78 million trips by British citizens overseas last year, it's easy to see how this one thing can increase the cost of travel by hundreds of millions, and for what?
 
It's disturbing how many people seem to be treating this like it's a game :Blink:

Nobody is treating it a game. The shambles the government has created is laughable.

But some people simply don't believe the doom and gloom bring pushed by so called experts. These are the same people who told us we go spiral into recession the second we voted to leave.

Simply hasn't happened. Business and trade will carry on. Are the EU just going to dump their goods in the English channel???

On the medication point. It's always been common for me where boots have said we don't have it in stock and it will arrive next week. Brexit hasnt caused that!
 
Nobody is treating it a game. The shambles the government has created is laughable.

But some people simply don't believe the doom and gloom bring pushed by so called experts. These are the same people who told us we go spiral into recession the second we voted to leave.

Simply hasn't happened. Business and trade will carry on. Are the EU just going to dump their goods in the English channel???

On the medication point. It's always been common for me where boots have said we don't have it in stock and it will arrive next week. Brexit hasnt caused that!

Can you reference this statement?
 
Nobody is treating it a game. The shambles the government has created is laughable.

But some people simply don't believe the doom and gloom bring pushed by so called experts. These are the same people who told us we go spiral into recession the second we voted to leave.

Simply hasn't happened. Business and trade will carry on. Are the EU just going to dump their goods in the English channel???

On the medication point. It's always been common for me where boots have said we don't have it in stock and it will arrive next week. Brexit hasnt caused that!

Again, simple fact checking would stop nonsense like this being posted.

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Nobody is treating it a game. The shambles the government has created is laughable.

But some people simply don't believe the doom and gloom bring pushed by so called experts. These are the same people who told us we go spiral into recession the second we voted to leave.

Simply hasn't happened. Business and trade will carry on. Are the EU just going to dump their goods in the English channel???

On the medication point. It's always been common for me where boots have said we don't have it in stock and it will arrive next week. Brexit hasnt caused that!

I can only speak from personal experience, I suffered a serious injury that requires me to take a number of medications and I’ve been taking them for about 10 years . In that time i order and wait a couple of days , usually more than required and collect. Twice in three months I’ve been unable to fill prescriptions and had to contact my gp to then arrange to go to different chemists to collect prescriptions, so this has taken probably 14-18 days (actually probably less than that thinking about it but significantly more than a week ) after a prescription refilling request . In 10 years I’ve probably had over a thousand prescriptions filled and it’s never happened before but twice it has . Both my gp and pharmacists have told me directly it’s because of companies stockpiling because of Brexit , however if you know better I’m obviously prepared to dismiss both my experiences and their comments

Edit - I’ve just used google and pharmacists appeared to be warning in January we have a shortage of over 80 medicines in the U.K. and that Brexit was a factor . Again I suggest you contact them and inform them they’re wrong .

I’m not suggesting it’s the only factor and my original post was anecdotal but it’s something I’ve physically encountered and it actually impacts my Day to day living and health . I asked why and I was told Brexit was a factor . I’m not fear mongering just discussing a topic I have first hand knowledge of .
 
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Again, simple fact checking would stop nonsense like this being posted.

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Very informative and Not only that those that made the predictions of a hit to the economy then went out and did everything they could to prevent those predictions being proved correct .
 
Reference? Part of the remain campaign was built on an emergency budget, tax hikes and recession. Also a 0.1% growth was forecasted. Actually it's been 1.8%. 3 million people will lose their job. Again not happened.

The actual statement. From my own recollection, those statements were referring to actually leaving, and unless I've slept through it, all we've done so far is announce we will leave rather than actually leave. I may have misunderstood or misremembered however, so I was hoping you could point me to those statements.
 
Nope. All those were imediate predictions.

George Osbourne went to great lengths to tell everyone about his emergency budget the day after the vote
 
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