Current Affairs EU In or Out

[hullefc]

We trade with world, however it is insulting to have someone say our country is not good enough to trade on a bigger scale and we need a union to even attempt it. Belittling.

What are we going to trade with the rest of the world that we don't do already?

 

[MikeEFC1878x]

But the UK does trade with those countries.

Ok show me our trade deal please, like I said we can trade with them but on small scale it is not allowed in EU law for us to get trade deals with another country being an EU member.

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

We have a democracy to elect people to decide on the governance of the country, not to toss it back to the population to decide on each and every thing. Referendums are a nonsense, and on that I quite agree with Lammy.

For the record, I have no problem at all for people to have as much control over their own affairs as possible, as they have the most information about their own affairs. As evidenced by this whole sham however, the vast majority have naff all idea about EU matters and so the very notion of them deciding on such things is an utter nonsense. It shouldn't have been offered in the first place, and if they can wriggle out of it then they should do.

Weather you agree with if we should of had the referendum or not is irrelevant at this stage. Weather it was also handled appallingly by both sides is also irrelevant, it's happened now and to simply ignore the result is an affront to democracy and the majority. Be very careful what you wish for pal, because the next time your vote is disregarded as you didn't vote the right way you might regret it.

 

[Toffeelover]

Including on allowing this referendum in the first place. I wonder if you gave the population a simple tests on some core facts about our membership of the EU and what it does and does not offer us, what do you reckon the average score would be?

Impossible to say to be honest and I would not like to guess.

To me the remain camp got it wrong in a big way. Not going to go into individuals but it would have been better if there campaign had been positive. They should have set out the benefits of being in the EU, what benefits the future continued membership would offer, and making it clear what reforms they would vigorously pursue and not take no for an answer. What we needed was a PM and a Government with some courage to take on the other countries and the likes of Juncker.

 

[ianefc]

 

[SNova]

Spot on take away economy and immigration for balance

Remain has no argument unless they can try spin something like an unelected commission and eu flag anthem no nation state, having to join political union etc as a good idea.

And just for good measure many or the Remainians in a civil debate would try to convince people by calling them idiots, racists and a little Englander.

 

[Brennan]

It's on Twitter so it's obviously not true

 

[MikeEFC1878x]

And just for good measure many or the Remainians in a civil debate would try to convince people by calling them idiots, racists and a little Englander.

Controlling borders is policy of hate is another one they liked to use, or Blair promoting them, totally out of touch

 

[MikeEFC1878x]

It's on Twitter so it's obviously not true

Online hate crime? you kidding me ONLINE HATE CRIME

 

[hullefc]

Ok show me our trade deal please, like I said we can trade with them but on small scale it is not allowed in EU law for us to get trade deals with another country being an EU member.

The UK already trades with the world including the commonwealth. For example a £9 billion trade deal with India and Free Trade Agreements with Commonwealth countries.

"It’s sometimes suggested that the EU’s trade deals with other countries don’t benefit the UK. But the UK’s exports to Commonwealth countries have been increasing at over 10% a year – with increases (over two years) of 33% to India, 31% to South Africa, 30% to Australia and 18% to Canada. In fact, since 2004, British exports to India are up 143%. Needless to say, this increase in trade with the Commonwealth (while an EU member) must have created or maintained many British jobs.

Is it possible that after leaving the EU, the UK could negotiate trade deals with Commonwealth countries more quickly, or deals which are even more favourable to the UK? First of all, as noted above, the EU already has agreed trade deals with 64% of Commonwealth countries, and is negotiating with another 26%. Some of the latter negotiations are likely to be completed by the time that ‘Brexit’ took place".

"Below is a list showcasing 15 of United Kingdom’s top import partners, countries that imported the most UK shipments by dollar value during 2015. Also shown is each import country’s percentage of total UK exports.

1. United States: US$66.5 billion (14.5% of total UK exports)
2. Germany: $46.4 billion (10.1%)
3. Switzerland: $32.2 billion (7%)
4. China: $27.4 billion (5.9%)
5. France: $27 billion (5.9%)
6. Netherlands: $26.6 billion (5.8%)
7. Ireland: $25.5 billion (5.5%)
8. Belgium: $17.8 billion (3.9%)
9. Spain: $13.1 billion (2.8%)
10. Italy: $12.9 billion (2.8%)
11. United Arab Emirates: $10.3 billion (2.2%)
12. Hong Kong: $9.6 billion (2.1%)
13. South Korea: $7 billion (1.5%)
14. Saudi Arabia: $6.7 billion (1.5%)
15. Sweden: $6.6 billion (1.4%)

Almost three-quarters (72.9%) of UK exports in 2015 were delivered to the above 15 trade partners.

Among these top trade partners, UK imports to China rose in value at the fastest pace from 2011 to 2015 with a 94.2% gain.

In second place were South Korean importers, which grew their imports from the UK by 72.9%.

Saudi Arabia and United Arab Emirates boosted their imports purchases by 36% and 23.5%, respectively.

America’s imports from the UK increased by 5.7% over the 5-year period".

How can we get the most out trade with the EU and the Commonwealth?

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Ok show me our trade deal please, like I said we can trade with them but on small scale it is not allowed in EU law for us to get trade deals with another country being an EU member.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_free_trade_agreements

 

[ianefc]

It's on Twitter so it's obviously not true

I'm not sure whether you're be factitious, joking or serious.

If it's the latter if SKY News didn't tweet it, but reported on TV would that make it accurate?

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Online hate crime? you kidding me ONLINE HATE CRIME

Mate, you seem to be getting quite hot under the collar. Might I suggest you take advantage of the nice weather and go outside for a walk or something? Arguing on here has its limits.

 

[neil999]

i would laugh my absolute balls off if we end up still having freedom of movement

 

[MikeEFC1878x]

Mate, you seem to be getting quite hot under the collar. Might I suggest you take advantage of the nice weather and go outside for a walk or something? Arguing on here has its limits.

I am not arguing with malicious intentions, more debating, just unsure what constitutes online hate crime, borders on 1984 thought speech surely, considering the has been reports of things like this before on minorities and it turns out it's people calling them fat or minor things nothing to do with actual hate.