When was the last time you went from UK to Northern Ireland or vice versa?
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Carl O'Ancelotti
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You've not travelled much between Britain and Ireland have you. As someone who frequently does, I can confirm that your contention above is 100% incorrect.
Travellers arriving in the UK from Ireland don't even have to pass through border control, let alone show a passport to prove their nationality.
tsubaki
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Coming into the UK from Ireland yes, going into Ireland from the UK (edit: at least on a plane) no.
People who’s main reason for voting leave was to “ take back control of our borders “ so we can decide who we let in and don’t, must be fuming at the latest set of immigration figures.
They have had the desired effect on EU citizens they have fallen dramatically I would suggest partly because life is now better in their own countries for their skill sets they possess, the worrying thing is that immigrants from South America and Africa have dramatically increased, so much for taking control of our borders those who could come here freely aren’t interested and those who we can stop coming in are pouring in, so it would seem taking back control of our borders was another Brexit lie.
They have had the desired effect on EU citizens they have fallen dramatically I would suggest partly because life is now better in their own countries for their skill sets they possess, the worrying thing is that immigrants from South America and Africa have dramatically increased, so much for taking control of our borders those who could come here freely aren’t interested and those who we can stop coming in are pouring in, so it would seem taking back control of our borders was another Brexit lie.
Carl O'Ancelotti
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Correct, but the claim was that 'there are border controls at all UK ports and airports,' not other EU ones.
Barnfred 55
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No I haven't. I can only repeat what the rules say. UK and Irish citizens need to carry photo ID and be prepared to prove nationality when travelling between UK and Ireland/NI. Other nationalities need to carry passports and visas if required. Often the carrier company will undertake the role of checking the ID which is why I included the words "at some stage" in my post.
If you have somehow managed to travel back and forth to Ireland without ever showing your ID and proving your nationality, I have to question our countries security arrangements.
However none of this alters the fact that we don't have open borders for none UK/Irish nationalities coming into mainland UK from NI, which is what you originally said. Whether we need to tighten them is a different matter.
summerisle
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Barnfred 55
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I'll ask the same question of you, as you must have surely based your strong belief upon the same evidence. Shouldn't be that hard to dig out. Not for somebody of your capabilities.That was an actual remark from a poster on here so I only wish it were a throwaway remark. Regarding your question, you make the claim that the government can control immigration effectively and therefore manage who comes in based upon the needs of academia, industry and so on. My contention is that's a crazy thing to assume and harks back to the Soviet controlled economy days. My last question attempted to pull that out, as we've had many years now of data to compare the 'managed' migration of non-EU citizens and the 'un-managed' migration of EU citizens. It should be pretty easy to tell how effective both have been, be it on education levels, employment levels, age, crime, whatever metric you choose to use. I mean you must surely have based your strong belief on this kind of evidence, so hangover or not, it shouldn't be that hard to dig out
I can second that.
I regularly fly between Liverpool and Belfast and there is no requirement to show a passport, maybe they do random checks but I have never seen any.
Now, I will be flying to Belfast en route to Donegat at Easter, after Brexit Day if that goes ahead on March 29th.
It will be interesting to see what happens then,
Barnfred 55
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Are you ever asked to provide photographic ID confirming your nationality by the carrier company, such as at check in.
I can tell you from practical experience, the last time being in February just gone Barney, that is not the case.
No one at either end wants to see a passport at point of entry, euther in Belfast or in Liverpool.
Photographic proof of identity, nit necessarily a passport, might be required for security purposes and indeed I always fetch my passport with me, but I do nit need to show it when entering either of those two cities
Nope.....not by the carrier.
But security at the airport is a different thing....and as I said on my other post, it is your identity not your nationality they are checking and a drivers license will do.
Yes, I have. EU migrants are typically higher educated, more likely to be in work, younger with fewer dependents and less likely to be criminals. That's people we have no control over. All of this is available from the likes of the migration observatory.
I've travelled to Northern Ireland 12 times in the last two years, never once been asked for my passport not any ID.
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