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[abelard]

I think @abelard is one

would certainly explain how the profession's fallen into disrepute, if true.

and would be further proof that a fancy title is no guarantee of wisdom.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

would certainly explain how the profession's fallen into disrepute, if true.

and would be further proof that a fancy title is no guarantee of wisdom.

I was loathe to put you in Dave's company I must admit for fear of bringing the profession into disrepute.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Whilst on Reuters earlier, this gem popped up

Brexit to harm UK's cherished health service, experts say

A British exit from the EU without a deal would have "an immediate and dras...

uk.reuters.com

 

[edge]

In my world unicorn is a commonly used term to refer to a startup that grew to a £1bn valuation. Thankfully, Brexit will mean we won't have to utter it again even in that context

Oh, and without being facetious, I think we do have one or two professors on here. I think @abelard is one, and quite possibly @davek

As unicorns represent a mythical creature, statistically zero chance of existing even rarely (despite being named in the bible a few times) , please use the word Saola instead it is more a more factual reference.

Saola
i like that word for some reason has a nice ring to it and does not conjure up a mental picture of a my little pony character .

 

[Bruce Wayne]

As unicorns represent a mythical creature, statistically zero chance of existing even rarely (despite being named in the bible a few times) , please use the word Saola instead it is more a more factual reference.

Saola
i like that word for some reason has a nice ring to it and does not conjure up a mental picture of a my little pony character .

Sounds like our next manager.

 

[Jebus_lives]

My issue isn't necessarily with the official leaflet which was more generic in its advice. It was more to do with statements, articles and endorsements of "findings" from numerous government officials leading upto the referendum. It was nearly 3 years ago so I can't remember specifics, but they were saying things like sterling could go down by upto 40% making prices upto 20% higher; stock market going down by upto 50% effecting peoples savings and pensions; that the country would go back into recession that would take years to recover from; inflation would be out of control forcing us to hike interest rates; unemployment would soar. Now they were telling us that this was going to start happening as soon as we made a decision to leave. They weren't saying this is what could happen if we left without a deal. In the event, sterling dropped by 10/15% and inflation gone up by 2/3%.

As regards benefits of leaving, I've gone over this in a few posts and not really motivated to repeat myself again. All I will say is, hand on heart, do you truly believe that there is not one possible benefit to the country of leaving the EC?

I can't ever recall hearing that Sterling would drop 40%, I do recall the Bank of England suggesting that under no deal house prices could fall up to 30% but honestly can't remember any official predictions suggesting what you have written above - although it has been quoted at by Leave voters as evidence of 'Project Fear'.

Most organisations seemed to hedge their bets, giving forecasts depending upon the different types of deal that might be signed. They also did offer balance in regard to citing potential benefits.

The only forecasts, from memory, that offered a completely positive view of Brexit was Patrick Minfords crowd at Economists for Brexit.

 

[degsy]

Sounds like our next manager.

Taxi for Saola

 

[Bruce Wayne]

UK no more biased against migrant workers than other EU nations - Personnel Today

Around 15% of people in the UK would object to having immigrants as neighbours, and most Brexiteers do not object to foreign workers, according to a new academic paper. A study by Professor Mariah Evans of the University of Nevada, Reno (UNR), analysed major public surveys of human beliefs and...

www.personneltoday.com

Bit of a surprise - full paper here https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fsoc.2019.00012/full

 

[edge]

UK no more biased against migrant workers than other EU nations - Personnel Today

Around 15% of people in the UK would object to having immigrants as neighbours, and most Brexiteers do not object to foreign workers, according to a new academic paper. A study by Professor Mariah Evans of the University of Nevada, Reno (UNR), analysed major public surveys of human beliefs and...

www.personneltoday.com

Bit of a surprise - full paper here https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fsoc.2019.00012/full

good read that
we could have finished bottom of this table if it wasn't for labour party members

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

This U turn by Corbyn is disgraceful really, Brexit was in his manifesto. May should call a general election and wipe him out.........

Failed manifesto, the electorate rejected Labour manifesto 2017 by voting in a minority Conservation government, Labour are fully justified in seeking other options policy etc as opposition.

 

[Barnfred 55]

One benefit of leaving would be never hearing the word unicorn again in any context outside of little girls story books.
I immediately see it in the post and think oh fk somebody really thinks there being clever here.
Wonder what they have read on twitter/ Facebook today?
normally following on with some post that assumes they know what 17.4 million leave voting people are thinking right now.
I always think isn't it just amazing who would have thought it possible we have a real life proffesor x right here on GOT posting ,never fails to amaze me this place.

Yeah, know what you mean. I actually lost it with a poster a few days ago after he played the Unicorn card. Not something I'm proud of tbh but it got under my skin. Don't think this poster was a WUM though, I think he actually believes over 50% of the population are thick.

 

[gav1985]

Failed manifesto, the electorate rejected Labour manifesto 2017 by voting in a minority Conservation government, Labour are fully justified in seeking other options policy etc as opposition.

We musn't forget the many manifesto promises the tories completely lied about either.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

We musn't forget the many manifesto promises the tories completely lied about either.

Indeed!
And I'm no fan of referendum happily see them diminished in power and use. Such matters should held in the general election arena.

 

[Tubey]

UK no more biased against migrant workers than other EU nations - Personnel Today

Around 15% of people in the UK would object to having immigrants as neighbours, and most Brexiteers do not object to foreign workers, according to a new academic paper. A study by Professor Mariah Evans of the University of Nevada, Reno (UNR), analysed major public surveys of human beliefs and...

www.personneltoday.com

Bit of a surprise - full paper here https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fsoc.2019.00012/full

I think people say one thing and do another.

I think everyone knows it's not socially OK to be racist, and if a racist was asked whether they are in a survey or whatever, they by and large will never admit to being racist - but they'll still be a racist.

Also, I'd be interested to see an urban/countryside split comparison with other EU countries in terms of population.

 

[Barnfred 55]

I can't ever recall hearing that Sterling would drop 40%, I do recall the Bank of England suggesting that under no deal house prices could fall up to 30% but honestly can't remember any official predictions suggesting what you have written above - although it has been quoted at by Leave voters as evidence of 'Project Fear'.

Most organisations seemed to hedge their bets, giving forecasts depending upon the different types of deal that might be signed. They also did offer balance in regard to citing potential benefits.

The only forecasts, from memory, that offered a completely positive view of Brexit was Patrick Minfords crowd at Economists for Brexit.

As I said, I can't remember the specifics so it may not actually have been as high 40%. But it was a high figure and I remember somebody saying they expected the value of the euro to be higher than sterling. Most of the claims I'm referring to were made in statements from key Government people like Cameron, Osborne and Carney. Some were speeches and others written articles endorsing one report or another.

I didn't take a great deal of notice of Leave campaign claims or forecasts, and have never even heard of the one you referred to above. But "Project Fear", as it became known, wasn't a myth. Both sides were as bad as each other IMO and nobody presented a situation whereby they went through the pros and cons of both sides. They were either for or against, and it laid the foundations for what is now, in my mind, a largely irretrievable position.