I would say enough to swing the vote were.
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I was, of course, being facetious, but Cambridge Analytica have at least shown us that such methods are very effective, so it would be naive to say they played no part at all.
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I don't think either side is prepared to give an inch tbh mate. I think the rift has gone too far for that.
The animosity felt towards leave voters from the outset shocked me if I'm honest. I just wasn't expecting the level of vitriol. I even fell out with family over it. We still talk but there's no doubt that the close relationship we had with my sister is no longer there. I think the immediate reaction was for leave voters to dig their trenches and it's got steadily worse from there.
I fear it will only get worse before it gets better too. Whether we leave or remain the bitterness will still be there and for many years to come. If we end up staying I very much doubt the Brexiteers will just give up and vice versa.
Ironically, I think a very soft Brexit is probably the only thing that could help bring the two sides back together. Whilst not being something either side would want, it does represent a compromise by both parties and in that respect may possibly start the healing process.
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Oh I agree. Europe would be much stronger with the UK rather than without it, and a weaker Europe very much plays into Russia's hands. Even without the benefit of Cambridge Analytica I think we know enough about the Russians to realise they would be up to something underhand to try and influence proceedings.
One could argue that they would also be using the assets they have within Parliament to the same end
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I would say not.
But both are a matter of opinion and impossible to prove one way or the other.
yup, we'll never know, all we can do is investigate whether there was illegal campaign financing and if there was illegal manipulation of social media.
With the answers to these questions, we can gauge whether the electorate was misinformed or not.
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There was also an awful lot of over the top scare mongering undertaken by the government on behalf of the remain side, paid for by the tax payers more than half of who voted the other way.
What we don't know is how many people's decision were affected by it. I can only speak for myself and I saw through the lies and scaremongering from both sides. They were pretty obvious after all.
Legally, if it were a binding referendum, it would be void.
Firstly, it was evidenced and largely factually correct, although open to challenge based on interpretation.
Secondly, as I've repeated over and over in this thread, the government is duty bound to act in the interests of it's electorate and the leaflet fell into the category of informing the public, based on an assessment of evidence.
Thirdly, it didn't campaign on behalf of Remain as this would've meant it fell foul of the electoral commission who found 'no collusion' between the government and Remain Campaign.
Oh I agree. Europe would be much stronger with the UK rather than without it, and a weaker Europe very much plays into Russia's hands. Even without the benefit of Cambridge Analytica I think we know enough about the Russians to realise they would be up to something underhand to try and influence proceedings.
One could argue that they would also be using the assets they have within Parliament to the same end
Disinformation and ‘fake news’
Digital, Culture, Media and Sport Committee inquiry into the phenomenon of fake news
www.parliament.uk
Chapter 6.
roydo
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Just heard that. Not entirely sure what the point would be though.
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If its based on the Kyle - Wilson amendment, its that Parliament cannot decide this as its deadlocked (which it is), so the only way so this can be resolved is by a second referendum - May's deal vs Remain.
roydo
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Ah, I see. I missed that bit. Just thought they meant an In/Out re run.
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