Current Affairs EU In or Out

[roydo]

I'm no expert, but my impression was that many of the big car companies want suppliers to be so integrated into their systems and ways of working that I'd imagine it would be pretty difficult to switch to another buyer even if one existed.

The systems and production methods of the mass producers are pretty similar in practice. So if you can supply Honda, it isnt a huge leap to supply Ford as well/instead. Not seamless, but not uncommon neither.

 

[summerisle]

Welp, bye Honda.

It's OK though, we're taking back control or something.

#notbrexitsfault

 

[Bruce Wayne]

The systems and production methods of the mass producers are pretty similar in practice. So if you can supply Honda, it isnt a huge leap to supply Ford as well/instead. Not seamless, but not uncommon neither.

I guess lean is pretty standard these days, which is perhaps not a good thing when you're deliberately introducing delays into the supply chain.

 

[The binman chronicles]

That was always going to happen with Honda. That'll hurt the area. We know things with Nissan isn't rosy, how long before the Mini plant come out with an announcement?

Talking tens of thousands of jobs here right at the start of the process. That's less money they will have to spend, which will further add pressure to firms that they used to buy their goods from and the vicious cycle will keep on and knock the country for 6. I hope people are happy with what they have done.

 

[Jebus_lives]

That was always going to happen with Honda. That'll hurt the area. We know things with Nissan isn't rosy, how long before the Mini plant come out with an announcement?

Talking tens of thousands of jobs here right at the start of the process. That's less money they will have to spend, which will further add pressure to firms that they used to buy their goods from and the vicious cycle will keep on and knock the country for 6. I hope people are happy with what they have done.

Well everyone knew what they voted for so it's fine.

 

[peteblue]

That was always going to happen with Honda. That'll hurt the area. We know things with Nissan isn't rosy, how long before the Mini plant come out with an announcement?

Talking tens of thousands of jobs here right at the start of the process. That's less money they will have to spend, which will further add pressure to firms that they used to buy their goods from and the vicious cycle will keep on and knock the country for 6. I hope people are happy with what they have done.

This is as a result of the EU - Japan free trade deal. The only reason Japan manufactures in the U.K. is to avoid EU tariffs, which a Brexit U.K. could have returned to them. But the EU- Japan deal means no tariffs and no need to manufacture anywhere in Europe....

 

[peteblue]

I see you caught him telling porkies again. Well I never.

More importantly, to dismiss the likely consequences of Brexit on Ireland in such an offhand manner is nothing short of contemptible.

Gandheys Circus is on at Aintree this week. If they need a clown I reckon I could help them. We both know what he's about. A terrible poster.

He lost credibility on Irish affairs a long time ago, Emlyn

That’s if he ever had any to begin with

Any chance of taking your Irish prejudices back to the Irish border thread as you’ve nothing to add here......

 

[roydo]

This is as a result of the EU - Japan free trade deal. The only reason Japan manufactures in the U.K. is to avoid EU tariffs, which a Brexit U.K. could have returned to them. But the EU- Japan deal means no tariffs and no need to manufacture anywhere in Europe....

Of course. Its far easier and cheaper to shift cars to the EU from Japan than it is Swindon. Closing a 30 year old plant, building a new one, and hiring and training 3500 new staff is a piece of cake as well.

 

[Khalekan]

Chair of airbus reckons the multiplier effect for their factory is x6 so assuming roughly the same for Honda in Swindon, it could be over 20k jobs.

Honda was one of the big companies which expressed concern about Brexit and possible ramifications for its UK operations during the Referendum campaign.

But aye up.

#ProjectFear innit

 

[The binman chronicles]

This is as a result of the EU - Japan free trade deal. The only reason Japan manufactures in the U.K. is to avoid EU tariffs, which a Brexit U.K. could have returned to them. But the EU- Japan deal means no tariffs and no need to manufacture anywhere in Europe....

No I don't agree with that. The reason they are not relocating to somewhere inside the EU might be down to the new trade deal, but they wouldn't have pulled out now when the factory and supply chains are in place. We have altered the business conditions and they have reacted as a result.

I have always said whether Brexit effects companies or not it gives them a reason to look at their business and make cuts/closures without the usual PR negatives. Like it or not Brexit is the trigger.

 

[peteblue]

Of course. Its far easier and cheaper to shift cars to the EU from Japan than it is Swindon. Closing a 30 year old plant, building a new one, and hiring and training 3500 new staff is a piece of cake as well.

Depends on pay rates, costs of production, transportation of parts, government subsidies, cost of energy etc etc. Car manufacturers margins range from about 4-8 % for mainstream cars, so the removal of 10% tariffs on cars and 3% on car components must be factored into the overall production and shipping costs. I’m sure someone will come up with the exact numbers......

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Good job we wound up the Japanese by telling them to hurry up with the trade negotiations huh?

 

[peteblue]

Good job we wound up the Japanese by telling them to hurry up with the trade negotiations huh?

Strange one that isn’t it. Once we are out of the EU then WTO tariffs apply unless they have a trade deal with the U.K......

 

[Carl O'Ancelotti]

Any chance of taking your Irish prejudices back to the Irish border thread as you’ve nothing to add here......

Any chance of you keeping your anti-Irish prejudices in here as you've nothing to add in the border thread.....

 

[Ron Swanson]

The people who believe this is nothing to do with brexit are the kind of people who believe an ex who says 'it's not you, it's me.'