Current Affairs EU In or Out

[davmaher]

Not really - Labour policy is to keep every option on the table. Only by those options being reduced down - by the PM ignoring them (like the cross party talks), by being defeated in the house (as on the no confidence vote) - do you get to the point at which a second referendum is viable.

Even then, you have to ensure it passes and that the Government cannot set the terms of it (ie: that they can't offer no deal vs May's deal vs remain, or that they allow the same funding issues that Leave benefited from last time).

The problem with Labour continuing to keep all options open is that it is starting to look like Nero fiddles while Rome burns territory. A bit of decisive leadership would not go amiss.

 

[tim cahill]

The problem with Labour continuing to keep all options open is that it is starting to look like Nero fiddles while Rome burns territory. A bit of decisive leadership would not go amiss.

I think Labour are also running the clock down so if they call for a 2nd referendum at the last hour it seems like they were forced into it. It’s just bizarre that they’re busy playing chicken while the future of the UK is at stake!

 

[tim cahill]

Not really - Labour policy is to keep every option on the table. Only by those options being reduced down - by the PM ignoring them (like the cross party talks), by being defeated in the house (as on the no confidence vote) - do you get to the point at which a second referendum is viable.

Even then, you have to ensure it passes and that the Government cannot set the terms of it (ie: that they can't offer no deal vs May's deal vs remain, or that they allow the same funding issues that Leave benefited from last time).

The terms of a 2nd referendum would be interesting and could potentially dictate the result.

 

[peteblue]

I would be interested in who of our friends have helped us out in an economic decline.

The USA did.....

 

[peteblue]

Don't think so.

That’s because you hate theUSA.....

 

[peteblue]

If only there was some war in the past forty years where that had happened.

Oh wait....

Indeed. During the Falklands war, even though the USA tried to be politically neutral, from a material point of view they supported the U.K. . Meanwhile France supplied Exocets to the other side......

 

[Harryflashman]

Indeed. During the Falklands war, even though the USA tried to be politically neutral, from a material point of view they supported the U.K. . Meanwhile France supplied Exocets to the other side......

Before the war pete wasn’t it ? I’m not a Francophile and i think there was an issue with a private, rather than state , French individuals working on the technology in Argentina during the war but I think you may be wrong in terms of claiming they supplied weapons during the war .

 

[peteblue]

Like the migrants who had no say you mean ?

Why should they have a vote ? Many U.K. expats didn’t have a vote.......

 

[peteblue]

Before the war pete wasn’t it ? I’m not a Francophile and i think there is an issue with a private, rather than state , French individuals working on the technology in Argentina during the war but I think you may be wrong in terms of claiming they supplied weapons during the war .

Yes you are correct. But can you remember any support given by the EEC/EU to the U.K.?........

 

[jaycee]

Indeed. During the Falklands war, even though the USA tried to be politically neutral, from a material point of view they supported the U.K. . Meanwhile France supplied Exocets to the other side......

France let British forces use port facilities in Africa and supplied information about arms they had sold to Argentina,Israel carried on sipplying arms during the conflict

 

[Harryflashman]

Yes you are correct. But can you remember any support given by the EEC/EU to the U.K.?........

Again standing by my position and not fighting any battles for the French I think they were described as our greatest allies during the conflict to be honest with you . I could be wrong but I certainly recall reading that and I think in historical accounts of the conflict , or at least I think I do .

France let British forces use port facilities in Africa and supplied information about arms they had sold to Argentina,Israel carried on sipplying arms during the conflict

Yeah I think you’re spot on there

 

[peteblue]

France let British forces use port facilities in Africa and supplied information about arms they had sold to Argentina,Israel carried on sipplying arms during the conflict

What port facilities?.....

 

[jaycee]

What port facilities?.....

Look it up your the one pointing fingers at the French

 

[tsubaki]

Indeed. During the Falklands war, even though the USA tried to be politically neutral, from a material point of view they supported the U.K. . Meanwhile France supplied Exocets to the other side......

It’s the “tried to be politically neutral” bit there Pete.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Why should they have a vote ? Many U.K. expats didn’t have a vote.......

You said it's the responsibility of people who live here. I just pointed out that several million of those people had no involvement in this fiasco at all.