Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Tubey]

Does China have a trade agreement with the EU?

Do they have a freedom of movement agreement as well?

China isn't a valid comparison. They're massive, and they're not divorcing the EU, so the terms of negotiation are in a completely different ballpark. Same as the USA/EU.

We'd be joining the EFTA. We're a part of the European continent. If the EU let us do anything other than that, they'd be opening the floodgates for countries leaving. Not going to happen.

 

[Dymak]

Having a trade agreement and free trade are totally different things.

Yeah I realised that after posting.

 

[Librarian]

Having a trade agreement and free trade are totally different things.

so playing by exactly the same rules as before but without any say in how those rules are set

 

[Tubey]

They don't have access to the single market as Boris is proposing we will have though.

This too ^

 

[ilikecheese]

You still haven't responded to the fact that last year the economic value to the British economy was 8 times greater than the net contribution. On that basis perhaps we should be investing more in the EU not less.

As the second largest economy within the collective of course they are going to contribute the second most. The benefits of being part of the collective are being ignored.

 

[dandydan]

"British people will still be able to go and work in the EU; to live; to travel; to study; to buy homes and to settle down."

"there will continue to be free trade, and access to the single market."

Doesn't sound like immigration is changing to me, mate.

Sounds like you are having trouble getting it.

 

[Tubey]

Let's look at the "evidence" in the video. A road rage incident, a couple of EDL rallies and the word of baroness "I was totes leave honest" Warsi.
Oh and twitter.

So you actually believe the Leave vote didn't contain a sizable chunk of racists then mate?

Because I've got some chocolate teapots to sell you if so.

 

[Librarian]

How is the UK getting a bad deal?

I'm saying that Europe can't now be seen to give the UK a good deal

 

[Brennan]

The more I think about it, the more I feel there must be grounds for widespread protest at what has happened here.

The Leave campaign used this referendum as a political vehicle to try and strengthen their own positions within the Tory party, and in doing so lied point blank to the electorate about multiple key policy issues regarding what a leave vote would mean.

If somebody in big business told lies on this scale they'd be lucky to escape prosecution.

 

[Dymak]

"British people will still be able to go and work in the EU; to live; to travel; to study; to buy homes and to settle down."

"there will continue to be free trade, and access to the single market."

Doesn't sound like immigration is changing to me, mate.

Why are you deliberately ignoring the bit where he says that we will be introducing a points based system?

British people can do all of those things in Russia and Outer Mongolia, but they need to look in to the VISA arrangements between the countries before they do so.

 

[dandydan]

So you actually believe the Leave vote didn't contain a sizable chunk of racists then mate?

Because I've got some chocolate teapots to sell you if so.

How many would you say? I haven't got a clue of the numbers. The point is there has been no persecution of immigrants since the referendum

 

[Dymak]

China isn't a valid comparison. They're massive, and they're not divorcing the EU, so the terms of negotiation are in a completely different ballpark. Same as the USA/EU.

We'd be joining the EFTA. We're a part of the European continent. If the EU let us do anything other than that, they'd be opening the floodgates for countries leaving. Not going to happen.

Why is Boris still talking about a points system then? It would be beyond stupid of him to be discussing such a thing right now if it had no chance of ever happening.

 

[Tubey]

How many would you say? I haven't got a clue of the numbers. The point is there has been no persecution of immigrants since the referendum

Would have no clue obviously - they don't walk around the streets with RACIST written across their shirts - but if I had to guess, around 10% obvious "Britain First" type racists and 25% closet ones.

 

[Seanjd]

Why are you deliberately ignoring the bit where he says that we will be introducing a points based system?

British people can do all of those things in Russia and Outer Mongolia, but they need to look in to the VISA arrangements between the countries before they do so.

He also says "The only change – and it will not come in any great rush – is that the UK will extricate itself from the EU’s extraordinary and opaque system of legislation"

The guy has no idea what he's talking about, clearly.

As loads of put on here, you can't have access to the single market without free movement of trade (people), like Norways deal. It's part and parcel. Sorry.

 

[dandydan]

Would have no clue obviously - they don't walk around the streets with RACIST written across their shirts - but if I had to guess, around 10% obvious "Britain First" type racists and 25% closet ones.

How many anti Semites do you think voted remain?