Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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Think David Cameron not only messed up by calling a refendum and not having an exit plan in place just incase, but also if we'd remained he would of sold one of are very last and most important bargaining chips (the right to withdraw our consent from future treaties) in that great new deal he worked out with the eu

This video explains quite a bit and is worth a watch


But..Toby young
 
Where is George osbournes punishment budget???

In fact where is George osbourne the lying knob head

Osbourne

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As one of the wealthier members, you wouldn't be getting a lot out of it. But that could always change...see my above post.

Highly unlikely though mate isn't it?

It all frigging complicated to be honest, Someone like me just sees 12.9b sent to the EU and 4b back
 
Germany, France, Britain I reckon would be the largest contributors...rightly so. The wealthiest parts of a collective should be helping to fund the poorest. One day the shoe could be on the other foot.

As an example...let's look at Michigan here in the US. Once a thriving economy that contributed to the collective and is now receiving large federal help because their economy went into the crapper. It's not apples to apples, but it's not far off.

Fine, but nobody in the uk voted for that. Or voted for tusk or juncker.
 
Germany, France, Britain I reckon would be the largest contributors...rightly so. The wealthiest parts of a collective should be helping to fund the poorest. One day the shoe could be on the other foot.

As an example...let's look at Michigan here in the US. Once a thriving economy that contributed to the collective and is now receiving large federal help because their economy went into the crapper. It's not apples to apples, but it's not far off.

The Dutch put more in than France.
 
Think David Cameron not only messed up by calling a refendum and not having an exit plan in place just incase, but also if we'd remained he would of sold one of are very last and most important bargaining chips (the right to withdraw our consent from future treaties) in that great new deal he worked out with the eu

This video explains quite a bit and is worth a watch



And this is why I didn't vote

I change my mind after every argument for and against
 
And this is what that link shows for those who do not wish to click on links:
'I was recently granted a rare glimpse behind the official façade of the EU when I met with its Trade Commissioner in her Brussels office. I was there to discuss the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP), the controversial treaty currently under negotiation between the EU and the USA.

'As Trade Commissioner, Cecilia Malmström occupies a powerful position in the apparatus of the EU. She heads up the trade directorate of the European Commission, the post previously given to Peter Mandelson when he was forced to quit front line politics in the UK. This puts her in charge of trade and investment policy for all 28 EU member states, and it is her officials that are currently trying to finalise the TTIP deal with the USA.

'In our meeting, I challenged Malmström over the huge opposition to TTIP across Europe. In the last year, a record three and a quarter million European citizens have signed the petition against it. Thousands of meetings and protests have been held across all 28 EU member states, including a spectacular 250,000-strong demonstration in Berlin this weekend.

'When put to her, Malmström acknowledged that a trade deal has never inspired such passionate and widespread opposition. Yet when I asked the trade commissioner how she could continue her persistent promotion of the deal in the face of such massive public opposition, her response came back icy cold: “I do not take my mandate from the European people.”

'So who does Cecilia Malmström take her mandate from? Officially, EU commissioners are supposed to follow the elected governments of Europe. Yet the European Commission is carrying on the TTIP negotiations behind closed doors without the proper involvement European governments, let alone MPs or members of the public. British civil servants have admitted to us that they have been kept in the dark throughout the TTIP talks, and that this makes their job impossible.

'In reality, as a new report from War on Want has just revealed, Malmström receives her orders directly from the corporate lobbyists that swarm around Brussels. The European Commission makes no secret of the fact that it takes its steer from industry lobbies such as BusinessEurope and the European Services Forum, much as a secretary takes down dictation. It's no wonder that the TTIP negotiations are set to serve corporate interests rather than public needs.'



So this is the kind of organisation the 'Remainers' want to be a part of...? Yeah, right!
They do not take orders directly from corporate lobbyists. What complete drivel.
 
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