Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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Not exactly, Germany, and European countries in a loose federation whose only aim would have been to provide men and raw materials for the Nazi State. Hitler was always lukewarm at the idea of a European State.

Notwithstanding his stated desire for living space in the east, after the Spring of 1940 he needed an acquiescent Europe (including Britain) to be able to fulfil his plans. WIth the rest of Europe under his control, it was only Britain who thwarted his plans. The subjugation of Western Europe formed part of his plan to have peoples in other countries working for the Greater Reich...
 
Notwithstanding his stated desire for living space in the east, after the Spring of 1940 he needed an acquiescent Europe (including Britain) to be able to fulfil his plans. WIth the rest of Europe under his control, it was only Britain who thwarted his plans. The subjugation of Western Europe formed part of his plan to have peoples in other countries working for the Greater Reich...
Not exactly like the EU, which was your original point.
 
What I don't understand is how a country like Poland can put in 3.5b a year and receive 76b between 2014/2020

Why should the UK fund other countries growth
 
Notwithstanding his stated desire for living space in the east, after the Spring of 1940 he needed an acquiescent Europe (including Britain) to be able to fulfil his plans. WIth the rest of Europe under his control, it was only Britain who thwarted his plans. The subjugation of Western Europe formed part of his plan to have peoples in other countries working for the Greater Reich...
I think you'll find that Russia had a lot more to do with thwarting Hitler's plans than we did.
 
Because an area had to be in 'such and such' a deprived state which meant central govt could apply to get EU funds. The Thatcher govt refused to admit that places like Liverpool, Manchester, Leeds, Hull, Bristol etc. were deprived - as it would be seen as an indictment of her policies - so refused to apply for EU funds.

Is this documented anywhere, mate? I find that hard to believe, to be honest.
 
It's all part of being part of a larger collective and trying to make each part as strong as possible. It's not like the UK is funding all 76b over that period of time...it's spread out amongst members.

But with Britain one of the main contributors...
 
It's all part of being part of a larger collective and trying to make each part as strong as possible. It's not like the UK is funding all 76b over that period of time...it's spread out amongst members.

I understand that but I wonder how much we have put in since its inception and how much we've got back out?
 
Think David Cameron not only messed up by calling a refendum and not having an exit plan in place just incase, but also if we'd remained he would of sold one of are very last and most important bargaining chips (the right to withdraw our consent from future treaties) in that great new deal he worked out with the eu

This video explains quite a bit and is worth a watch

 
But with Britain one of the main contributors...

Germany, France, Britain I reckon would be the largest contributors...rightly so. The wealthiest parts of a collective should be helping to fund the poorest. One day the shoe could be on the other foot.

As an example...let's look at Michigan here in the US. Once a thriving economy that contributed to the collective and is now receiving large federal help because their economy went into the crapper. It's not apples to apples, but it's not far off.
 
Thing is. The biggest issue this country has is not suddenly shifting the power solely to the government but the fact that the people will do nothing about it.

Instead of raising our voices and challenging the establishment we English prefer to sit at home with a cup of tea and moan about it to the 6 of clock news. The minute we as a people stand up and fight back against what goes on the day will come when politics won't be about self interest.

Considering how much money we are meant to be losing due to the referendum, bankers, big business, mps will be the ones who won't be out of pocket. And we are all going to sit around on our hands and do nothing about them..

The people used their vote to challenge the establishment. There is nothing wrong with that.

The trouble is the repercussions as you say aren't going to be felt by the very people you were voting to challenge.

Bankers - they'll be fine, just move to Europe
Big business - scale back some UK operations, move them to Europe instead. New investment will go to Europe instead, why would you make products in a place out of the single market agreement which will mean they are costlier to buy from within the single market agreement
MPs - just replacing Cameron with Johnson, a move further to the right

Who is going to lose? The everyday man working at the steel factory, car factory etc. The job losses will hit him, the redistribution of the decreased tax take will hit him, the interest rate increases on his mortgage will hit him.
 
What I don't understand is how a country like Poland can put in 3.5b a year and receive 76b between 2014/2020

Why should the UK fund other countries growth
It's to balance out the differences in EU countries, such as wages cost of of living, investments. Remember 10 years ago you could get a pint in Greece for about 30p, now it's £4/5 well the EU were responsible for that. What's happened in Greece is that no one pays any declared tax so the country is broke, not the fault of the EU but making them join the euro was.
 
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