Current Affairs EU In or Out
- Thread starter micknick
- Start date
- Status
bobbydigital
Player Valuation: £1.5m
Some people mention a free trade agreement with the US a bit. There is a bit of conjecture over whether they would prioritise that over an agreement with the EU and also it is hardly likely to be an overnight agreement given the level of detail contained in such agreements.
However, with the outspoken Brexit support from Trump (amongst other far right loons), maybe we need to be hoping for him to become President? Fancy that.
allezlesbleus
Player Valuation: £35m
No mate!!!
On the other topic why would we be offered better terms by EU countries when we are not in it? And why would other non EU countries all over the world offer us better terms than they offer what remains of the EU?
bobbydigital
Player Valuation: £1.5m
Good question. I don't know mate, I can't figure it out. That's for the Leave side to answer.
Dont worry though, sure Boris, Nigel, Michael Gove and the lads have it all planned out and outlined these reasons in the campaign to vote leave.
That person could have presented strength ion the banner looks like he drew it up after a few pints of vodkalolPicture from today's mass protest of literally dozens of people about overturning brexit.
it was over One million gap of OUT, if the remain would have had that gap the debate all over the media would be over end off!
dandydan
Player Valuation: £40m
I wonder if the person knows where that slogan comes from?
If this was not so bad it would be funny. The out camp have not got a clue what to do next. They don't know what immigration will look like, what type of deal they want with EU. Jokers. Meanwhile Corbyn and the Hackney Popular Front do zero to organise a left of centre alternative.
Minimeister
Player Valuation: £35m
Before the vote I was governed by people I didn't elect. The vote was sold to me to move away from people I didn't elect. I end up back to even more of the people I didn't elect. You can see why people might be disillusioned.
wainy
Player Valuation: £35m
Been enjoying the last 2 days. The out camp literally have no idea what is going to happen, apart from shouting down people who oppose their idiocy. Thank god for my children myself and my missus are skilled enough to leave this small minded [Poor language removed] hole.
Old Blue 2
Player Valuation: £40m
I have neither an opinion on future trade deals, nor do I say what will happen. Read the post I was replying to, and read my reply again. The poster made a statement which came across as being claimed as fact. I simply stated that such a statement cannot be asserted, as no negotiations heve even started yet. Don't you undersatand that...?
I do wonder at the comprehension of some...
Old Blue 2
Player Valuation: £40m
The words I have put in bold says it all.
You can make assertions on the future based on your singular belief, but you cannot claim that that is how things will be. Because the reason is NOBODY can see into the future. And equally, NOBODY can say with any kind of %age certainty that certain things will happen. We can all speculate until the cows come home about everything. Hey, don't you know that Everton are going to win the Premiership, the FA Cup & the Leagus Cup next season? That's what it looks like to me. And therein is your flawed logic. Right there...
Old Blue 2
Player Valuation: £40m
And this is what that link shows for those who do not wish to click on links:
'I was recently granted a rare glimpse behind the official façade of the EU when I met with its Trade Commissioner in her Brussels office. I was there to discuss the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP), the controversial treaty currently under negotiation between the EU and the USA.
'As Trade Commissioner, Cecilia Malmström occupies a powerful position in the apparatus of the EU. She heads up the trade directorate of the European Commission, the post previously given to Peter Mandelson when he was forced to quit front line politics in the UK. This puts her in charge of trade and investment policy for all 28 EU member states, and it is her officials that are currently trying to finalise the TTIP deal with the USA.
'In our meeting, I challenged Malmström over the huge opposition to TTIP across Europe. In the last year, a record three and a quarter million European citizens have signed the petition against it. Thousands of meetings and protests have been held across all 28 EU member states, including a spectacular 250,000-strong demonstration in Berlin this weekend.
'When put to her, Malmström acknowledged that a trade deal has never inspired such passionate and widespread opposition. Yet when I asked the trade commissioner how she could continue her persistent promotion of the deal in the face of such massive public opposition, her response came back icy cold: “I do not take my mandate from the European people.”
'So who does Cecilia Malmström take her mandate from? Officially, EU commissioners are supposed to follow the elected governments of Europe. Yet the European Commission is carrying on the TTIP negotiations behind closed doors without the proper involvement European governments, let alone MPs or members of the public. British civil servants have admitted to us that they have been kept in the dark throughout the TTIP talks, and that this makes their job impossible.
'In reality, as a new report from War on Want has just revealed, Malmström receives her orders directly from the corporate lobbyists that swarm around Brussels. The European Commission makes no secret of the fact that it takes its steer from industry lobbies such as BusinessEurope and the European Services Forum, much as a secretary takes down dictation. It's no wonder that the TTIP negotiations are set to serve corporate interests rather than public needs.'
So this is the kind of organisation the 'Remainers' want to be a part of...? Yeah, right!
- Status